OT How 'bout dem Bosox !

Southerncards · September 14, 2006 11:56AM

12 games back and in second place...........ha ha, boo hoo

eat your heart out Sox fans

we now return you to your regularly scheduled collecting.......

lawnmowerman · September 14, 2006 12:00PM

NewJerseyMeatHook · September 14, 2006 12:08PM

Fear this:

XanaduNow · September 14, 2006 1:02PM

Laugh now, jerk off. But we'll see who's laughing when the Yanks pension payments start kicking in. Your farm system is crap and your run is over. Sure, we won't make the playoffs but we're doing what the dreaded Yanks did in the mid-90s -- building for a half-century run.

Trivia: Name one Yankee pitcher worth their weight in salt who's under the age of 40?

It's a trick question. There isn't one!

Not to mention the fact that being a Yankee fan is a "Do Not Pass 'Go' Go Straight To Hell" card when you die. God doesn't like gluttons.

Arthur

Edited to add: Yanks are up 3 games to 0. Yankees are king. Oh, wait a second ....

2nd Trivia: Anyone know what the worst choke in sports history was? Yeah, that's what I thought. Deal with it.

bri2327 · September 14, 2006 1:09PM

The same crappy farm system that has produced Cano, Wang & Cabrera in the past 2 years ?

I am by no means rubbing anything in on the Sox fans, but to rip the Yankees farm system is a joke. They have talent from the farm that is producing now, and a few more in the works. Until the Boston minor leaguers come up to the bigs and produce it is just speculation.

Oh, I guess you tricked yourself with the under 40 pitcher question. I suppose Wang is nothing, right ?

I thought you had a little more class Xanadu...I was apparently wrong.

yankeeno7 · September 14, 2006 1:20PM

And not lets forget Proctor...and seems so that Rasner and Karstens arent doing horribly either. Yeah, that Yankees farm system sucks....if you are dreaming, of course.

That was actually kind of a dumb thing to say if you consider yourself knowledgable about baseball. But, if you arent knowledgable, then I suppose you have an excuse of ignorance.

grote15 · September 14, 2006 1:48PM

I thought you had a little more class Xanadu...I was apparently wrong.

Is such hyperbole necessary? You guys like to dish it, but apparently have trouble getting it back in return.

bri2327 · September 14, 2006 1:54PM

<< I thought you had a little more class Xanadu...I was apparently wrong.

Is such hyperbole necessary? You guys like to dish it, but apparently have trouble getting it back in return. >>

What do we dish ?? Where are personal attacks and name calling ? You cant answer because there isnt any Grote, and you know it. Find one post where myself or any other yankee fan is throwing out the name calling like jerk o##.

grote15 · September 14, 2006 2:26PM

Agreed, bri, I didn't notice the jerk **f insult. You're right on this one.

Axtell · September 14, 2006 3:17PM

<< 12 games back and in second place...........ha ha, boo hoo

eat your heart out Sox fans

we now return you to your regularly scheduled collecting....... >>

Wow, way to win with class.

Typical of the pack of them that run on these boards, though.

bri2327 · September 14, 2006 3:34PM

<< 

<< 12 games back and in second place...........ha ha, boo hoo

eat your heart out Sox fans

we now return you to your regularly scheduled collecting....... >>

Wow, way to win with class.

Typical of the pack of them that run on these boards, though. >>

That comment was FAR from typical. I for one do not agree with what was said one bit. There is a difference between saying it when its a fued going back and forth between guys you know and have had that relationship....its all in jest then, but to come out like that isnt right, and certainly not a classy way to act.....but once again Ax tried to make it seem like that is the norm instead of the exception.

WinPitcher · September 14, 2006 4:05PM

Trivia: Name one Yankee pitcher worth their weight in salt who's under the age of 40?

Wang?

Steve

madGreek · September 14, 2006 5:52PM

I love the Brewers and Detroit. oh and oakland. The Braves and White Sox. and any team with Vlady. how bout that! oh and the Yanks are gonna get 7 more pennets in the next 7 years. I've forseen it. Then when the well is dry on players...George will buy Burrell,zito,zambrano,zito,Rick ankiel (he'll try him out), johan, krod, M. cabrera, ryan howard, prior(why not), not to mention all the danny kolb to jd drews. They'll be on top it seems the next 20 years. Then have the late 80's early 90's fall to rise again. So the sox should be looking at little leagers! Ha. kidding. Really Tom Brady is the closest to another ring and they are over too!!! it's peytons time. I'll stop...remember look at my teams then laugh. (I really hate the Pats, but don't mind the bosox)

Southerncards · September 14, 2006 6:34PM

Xanadu - you somehow found a way to take my post about some good natured ribbing by a Yankee fan against the Red Sox and turned it all wrong.

jerk off? c'mon now, was name calling really necessary?

No Yankee pitchers under age 40 worth their weight???

C Wang 17- 5
M Mussina 14 - 6
J Wright 10 - 7

oh and the old 40 + guy Johnson has 17 wins......

hhmmmmm

yankeeno7 · September 14, 2006 7:37PM

Oh, good spin Southerncards!

Bosox1976 · September 14, 2006 8:14PM

Here's a few from the sox minor league system: Papelbon, Hanley Ramirez, Annibal Sanchez, Varitek, Trot Nixon, Youkilis (by way of Oakland), Nomar. That's in 30 seconds off the top of my head. Yankees have found gems too.

On the brighter side - prediction: Pats 31 Jets 3

bri2327 · September 14, 2006 9:12PM

<< Here's a few from the sox minor league system: Papelbon, Hanley Ramirez, Annibal Sanchez, Varitek, Trot Nixon, Youkilis (by way of Oakland), Nomar. That's in 30 seconds off the top of my head. Yankees have found gems too.

On the brighter side - prediction: Pats 31 Jets 3 >>

Varitek ???

I think it was generally assumed you were referring to RECENT minor league talent....BUT, if you want to play that game then just off the top of my head, aside from Cano, Wang, Cabrera, and Proctor, there is a few guys named Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, and Derek Jeter.

softparade · September 14, 2006 9:36PM

if we are going THAT far back then you gotta name Andy Pettitte too!

softparade · September 14, 2006 9:38PM

<< 

Wow, way to win with class.

Typical of the pack of them that run on these boards, though. >>

no, this is simply not true. I don't see Yankee fans running amock like you describe them Ax.

Don't forget about our sig line bet regarding the M's and Yankees starting staff era! I have not seen you acknowledge anything yet

Seattle starters 4.75
Yanks starters 4.53

scooter729 · September 14, 2006 9:41PM

<< 

<< Here's a few from the sox minor league system: Papelbon, Hanley Ramirez, Annibal Sanchez, Varitek, Trot Nixon, Youkilis (by way of Oakland), Nomar. That's in 30 seconds off the top of my head. Yankees have found gems too.

On the brighter side - prediction: Pats 31 Jets 3 >>

Varitek ???

I think it was generally assumed you were referring to RECENT minor league talent....BUT, if you want to play that game then just off the top of my head, aside from Cano, Wang, Cabrera, and Proctor, there is a few guys named Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, and Derek Jeter. >>

Just for the record, Varitek came to the Sox in one of the more infamous trades, where the Sox sent stiff closer Heathcliff Slocumb to the Mariners for minor leaguers Varitek and Derek Lowe. So not sure he'd be considered a product of the Sox system or not.

And I think the 31-3 score is conservative - Pats should break 40 by the third quarter against those stiffs....

shagrotn77 · September 14, 2006 10:38PM

The Yankees have a minor leahue pitcher named Philip Hughes, for those of you who don't know already, who is VERY highly touted. They're expectign bug things from him in the next year or 2. Keep an eye out...

bri2327 · September 14, 2006 10:54PM

<< The Yankees have a minor leahue pitcher named Philip Hughes, for those of you who don't know already, who is VERY highly touted. They're expectign bug things from him in the next year or 2. Keep an eye out... >>

yes he is highly touted, but until a player does something on the major league level i dont put any stock in it. If I had a dollar for every prospect who didnt pan out I would be a very wealthy man.

This was one of the debates some of us Yankee fans had with Sox fans earlier this year. We kept hearing about the stellar minor league prospects of the Sox, and the depleted system of the Yanks. Until they do it in the show they are just a topic for conversation, nothing more.

gosteelers · September 15, 2006 12:44AM

<< Here's a few from the sox minor league system: Papelbon, Hanley Ramirez, Annibal Sanchez, Varitek, Trot Nixon, Youkilis (by way of Oakland), Nomar. That's in 30 seconds off the top of my head. Yankees have found gems too.

On the brighter side - prediction: Pats 31 Jets 3 >>

You quickly got rid of Hanley Ramirez and Annibal Sanchez for overrated Josh Beckett, though. Varitek came from Seattle, as was mentioned. Nomar's gone and producing again. You guys did bring up Clemens, though

BTW, talking about buying players, isn't Boston #2 in payroll? How has that helped them this year?

packCollector · September 15, 2006 12:52AM

Boston is #2 but it is still less than 60% of the yankees payroll. the sox did a crappy job of putting this years team together depending on too many wild cards. hopefully next year they will use the young base that they have and add a few legitimate players as opposed to a hodge podge of overpriced mediocrity. I was quite surprised that they lasted as long as they did with the make shift lineups and lousy bench. manny and papi can only carry you for so long.

gosteelers · September 15, 2006 1:55AM

I think not paying Damon what he wanted was probably the biggest gaffe for THIS year. Now, in coming years, Damon may not be worth the $$$ New York gave him, but he's sure been a shot in the arm for the Yanks this year...

XanaduNow · September 15, 2006 4:35AM

I apologize for the "jerk off" comment. That was uncalled for and wrong on my part.

The rest I stand by.

Arthur

Southerncards · September 15, 2006 5:37AM

Xanadu - apology accepted.

Now as far as the guys not worth their salt, do you think the Red Sox would like the nearly 60 W's that these guys have?

XanaduNow · September 15, 2006 6:31AM

This is what I think ...

I think the Yanks are primed to win yet another World Series this year. I don't see either of the teams in the Central or anyone from NL beating them, especially in a 5 or 7 game series. I have some mild questions about Johnson's big-game pitching ability but Mussina is a horse and will show up to win in the post. Their lineup hurts to just look at, letalone to face it. They'll win this year.

What the Sox are doing now is very reminiscent to me of what the Yanks did in the 90s. They're sticking with their prospects (well, except for Ramirez and Sanchez) and are willing to wait the growing pains of these guys out while they mature. They've stopped taking the "just win now and worry about the next few years in the next few years" approach and look like they're trying to load for a long-term victory; being continuous contenders for 5-6 years instead of shooting for the moon in one. That approach is what created the mini-dynasty the Yankees had in the mid- to late-90s. Oddly enough, it appears the Yankees are switching and going with the approach the Sox had back then: do anything and everything to win this year and damn with the future. Their age will soon catch up with them and although they're unique in the sense that they have the fiscal capacity to always be in contention, their minor league system is a shell of what it was 6 years ago. The Sox minor league system has been saturated with young strong arms through the draft in the past few years. This season, whether we want to accept it or not, has turned into a transition season for the Sox. Their lineup couldn't withstand the injuries the way the Yanks lineup could and the decision was made -- and rightly so, in my opinion -- to not mortgage the future for a run this season. Schilling, like Johnson, is on his way out and they got many of their young arms some much needed major league experience (even if the moves were made a bit early).

They've called up Pedroia and are easing him into his soon-to-be-permanent position in the middle infield. Nixon is probably not going to return and while I've heard speculation that the Sox will make a run at signing Sheffield (which I would thoroughly enjoy for a variety of reasons

) I also feel comfortable with having David Murphy slide into right. We've also got Jacoby Ellsbury who is just waiting to be called up for permanent residence in the Boston OF. Kottaras will be ready to take over for Varitek in 2 years and the list of lights-out SP that are cruising through the system is quite long (Bowden, Buchholz, Bard, Cox, Johnson and Masterson to name a few). This, of course, doesn't even include the arms that were brought up this season like Papelbon, Hansen, Lester, Gabbard, etc.

If you ask me who I feel is more ready to win a championship in the immediate future I will undoubtedly say the dreaded Yankees. But if you ask me who I think is more ready to secure the spot atop the AL East for the forseeable future? I've got to go with the Sox.

You have to remember, the Sox aren't exactly a low-payroll team. They have the money as well and are willing to spend it properly.

Arthur

Southerncards · September 15, 2006 9:40AM

Xanadu - a well very thought out post....thank you. I enjoyed the read.

lawnmowerman · September 15, 2006 9:52AM

I am glad you guys "worked it out". Really I am but it all does not matter since the Mets are going to win it all this year!

matt

Southerncards · September 15, 2006 10:55AM

The Mets? Surely, you jest.

LoDuca's blowout today is most likely driven by his off the field activities.......he'll slowly combust and the pitching staff will suffer.

lawnmowerman · September 15, 2006 11:01AM

<< The Mets? Surely, you jest.

LoDuca's blowout today is most likely driven by his off the field activities.......he'll slowly combust and the pitching staff will suffer. >>

Yankee fan

matt

Southerncards · September 15, 2006 11:27AM

My
Entire
Team
Sucks

GO METS

lawnmowerman · September 15, 2006 11:28AM

<< My
Entire
Team
Sucks

GO METS

>>

I never heard that one!

OT How 'bout dem Bosox !

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