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The copper coin doctors fool the PCGS graders on occasion.

shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
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Gone bad in its holder.

PCGS MS66RD from Heritage's November 2005 Internet sale.

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Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org

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  • DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825
    If Heritage had any self respect at all they wouldnt sell a POS like that.
  • CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    It did not sell. I wonder if has found its way back to PCGS. If one can rely on the grade guarantee, even a turned coin like that would still be worth fair market value. I wonder how many guys are out there doing arb plays by buying bad coins cheap and then tendering them on guarantee claims for the full fair market price.

    CG
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Here's another one that turned in the holder:

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    Russ, NCNE
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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭


    << <i>Here's another one that turned in the holder >>



    What was the '03 graded?
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Russ, What was the original grade? Thanks...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What was the '03 graded? >>



    MS64RB.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭
    i can see a coin changing depending in its enviorment(not literally). take a 100 year old coin and place it somewhere else and it can change appearance. like milkspots appearing on ASE`s, stuff happens.
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    <<<The copper coin doctors fool the PCGS graders on occasion.>>>
    If simpletons like braddick, gmarguli and rick snow can do it the doctors should be able to do it more than occasionaly.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    You sure that's not just wood-graining from a poor alloy mix on that 08-S?
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've had only one turn in the last 10 years - formerly 1880 MS66R, bought back by PCGS. When buying red copper, it's best to try and buy coins in the older holders.
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shylock, what was done to that coin -- a dip / re-coloring?
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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Shylock, what was done to that coin -- a dip / re-coloring? >>



    Maybe diluted m#$%^*!@ic acid, or a possible acidic kin.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    disgusting coins, but an exellent thread

    K S
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>disgusting coins, but an exellent thread

    K S >>



    you hit that one on the head image
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    You sure that's not just wood-graining from a poor alloy mix on that 08-S?

    Barry - I almost added this comment to the thread: "And don't tell me this is woodgrain toning" image

    S Mint woodgrain copper has veins of dark, poorly mixed alloy mixed into pure red copper in various patterns.
    This coin may have had some woodgrain at some point in time, as many 08-S's have. What I see now isn't woodgrain,
    it's just wood. For PCGS to have graded this 66RD in a blue label -- they are tough with condition rarities like this --
    I have no doubt this coin didn't look like this when it was graded.

    Shylock, what was done to that coin -- a dip / re-coloring?

    I have no clue what was done to it, that's an area of copper collecting I'm nieve about but would make for a great thread.
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭


    << <i>Here's another one that turned in the holder:

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    Russ, NCNE >>





    I think this qualifies as a bit more than "turned in the holder," perhaps "returned to the dead..."

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