Take a swing at this 1809 bust half then try to ID the Overton #

JRocco

Yeah I know it has a weak obverse strike and it is a later die state and it is a dirty old coin, but its an 1809 CBH, and I love these earlier CBH's. It is raw and will stay that way under my watch, but I would like some grading opinions( I know it is a guess from pics) on this circulated coin. If you care to throw a variety at her (its a nice variety)- I will throw in a couple of hints. Let me also add that this one has an "experimental" edge, the lllll variety, but it is botched really bad which makes me like this one even more.
Fire away.

JRocco

Any bust half guys on board?

Leiana

I'll take a whack at the grade- VF-20.

I know nothing about Overton Numbers, though.

-Amanda

Tassa

Is it a 108a?

DNADave

O-108

VF20

Tassa

<< <i>O-108

VF20 >>



I think you're right.

JRocco

Good call on the variety---Tassa nailed it as an O-108a
a solid R4 coin
Thanks

OKbustchaser

<< <i>Is it a 108a? >>



Not the "a" model. Just 108. (At least I see no sign of the die crack at star 4) AND A NICE ONE! Solid VF and if there is any luster left I would call the reverse XF. The dies were worn out when this puppy was born. Most of the "wear" on the design was never there in the first place.

Edited to add...

John says it is the "a" and he has it in hand...so,









obviously he's wrong anyway!

dorkkarl

this is an ez d.m. due to the segments on the rev. running down the right side of the coin, below "rica". so i concur w/ 108 (not die state "a" though)

sweet original, i'd have it in my set as vf-20

the overton plate coin shows mushy obv detail as well.

K S

stman

I like it as a solid VF as well. I almost want to say higher, and luster would determine that. It's very obvious the hair detail on Liberty was never there to begin with. I like this one!!

JRocco

You guys are good...




to a degree
The obverse is real weak on this one, but the reverse is a solid XF
As for the Overton---close call- bad definition on stars 1-7, but there are a die lumps around the 4th star (tough to see in these pics I know) so I pushed it into the a state, that along with the strong reverse segments--I might be a little too opportunistic there though.
The obverse holds the grade down -----just because.
Good eyes guys

stman

Hey man, you might want to put some of that blue all over the coin and make it "pretty" perhaps some pink? Then tweak out your image and folks might pay more attention to your dirty, nasty ol' worn out Bust half.

JRocco

<< <i>Hey man, you might want to put some of that blue all over the coin and make it "pretty" perhaps some pink? Then tweak out your image and folks might pay more attention to your dirty, nasty ol' worn out Bust half. >>



HaHaHa
Hey stman...




CHEERS

CoinAddict

Very nice bustie, John.

mozin

VF20 details, but the reverse rim ding is pretty noticeable. This does not make the a-die state.