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Need ID help with some Chinese coins...

...at least I think that they're coins from China. I guess that they could be charms or tokens also. Both are about 24mm in diameter and appear to be made of copper or bronze.

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"Have a nice day!"

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  • Not sure what they are, but the choices are coin or temple token/charm, from China, Korea, Annam (now Vietnam) or Japan. I'm leaning toward Chinese charms.

    The characters in the upper left photo look upside down to me.

    Are the side-by-sides the same coin, or the over-unders?
    Roy


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  • I think the one on the left is upside down, and the one on the right is right side up...
  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    The obverses, if you will, are in the top photo...the reverses in the bottom photo. I aligned the coins the way that they are because the character at the left appeared to me to be the same on both coins, but I could easily be wrong.
    "Have a nice day!"
  • I think the one on the left is Annam - I found a couple characters that match, but I can't match the other two.

    you are correct, they are both right side up.

    If you hit this link, about halfway down, you will find a couple that match the 6:00 character, and although your coin has a much different style of character, I am almost certain the 3:00 & 9:00 characters is supposed to be a match as well. I can't match the 12:00

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    I think the one on the right is a charm, also.

    The author of the page I linked also points out that the coin has the same legend of a rarer japanese coin from 1617.
  • Thanks for the Annam link. image
    Roy


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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Could the left hand coin be Toda 174?

    Toda 174

    Here is an excellent source for Annamese cash. Check out the on-line cash identifier in the upper left hand corner.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    The author of the page I linked also points out that the coin has the same legend of a rarer japanese coin from 1617.

    But the coin Blackhawk posted does not have this legend.


    Also, I would take the contents of the Roberts page on Asian coins with a few handfuls of salt. There are more than a few cases where he doesn't really know what he is talking about.

  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    My daughter pointed out to me that the two large "things" on the bottom right image coin are people and are upside down in the photo. image I don't know if I believe her or not, but I guess that's as good of guess as any.
    "Have a nice day!"
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