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ILLINOIS State sales tax- I thought Coins were exempt ??

This ebay seller , judypjcc , charged me sales tax on a thousand dollar purchase;

a partial set of PCGS Dimes .

Dawn said that by law ,they have to charge me some 62$ ..........

Dawn is in Illinois , I am in Illinois .

I have tried unsucessfully more then several times to reach then via emails

and phone calls .

Does anyone know the law in this state and who I should contact ? ?


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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't sound right at all - I've never paid tax on a numismatic (not supply related) purchase in the state of IL. Don't pay until that's straightened out.
  • hiijackerhiijacker Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭
    Here is the relevant Illinois code

    (35 ILCS 105/3) (from Ch. 120, par. 439.3)
    Sec. 3. Tax imposed. A tax is imposed upon the privilege of using in this State tangible personal property purchased at retail from a retailer, including computer software, and including photographs, negatives, and positives that are the product of photoprocessing, but not including products of photoprocessing produced for use in motion pictures for commercial exhibition. Beginning January 1, 2001, prepaid telephone calling arrangements shall be considered tangible personal property subject to the tax imposed under this Act regardless of the form in which those arrangements may be embodied, transmitted, or fixed by any method now known or hereafter developed.

    (35 ILCS 105/3‑5) (from Ch. 120, par. 439.3‑5)
    Sec. 3‑5. Exemptions. Use of the following tangible personal property is exempt from the tax imposed by this Act:

    (8) Legal tender, currency, medallions, or gold or silver coinage issued by the State of Illinois, the government of the United States of America, or the government of any foreign country, and bullion.

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Sounds pretty clear.
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  • << <i>Doesn't sound right at all - I've never paid tax on a numismatic (not supply related) purchase in the state of IL. Don't pay until that's straightened out. >>



    ..........ooops .....already paid

    But much thanks for all your reply`s ! image
  • I buy and sell currency (and coins) in Illinois. No sales tax.
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  • << <i>..........ooops .....already paid

    But much thanks for all your reply`s ! >>


    So politely request a refund of the sales tax and include the relevent text of the law and the link. If they don't refund or refuse to make a refund, then inform them that you "will be informing the IL dept of revenue that they are collecting sales taxes on exempt items, and probably not sending those collected funds to the state. This will probably result in them becoming very interested in your business."
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>But much thanks for all your reply`s ! >>


    So politely request a refund of the sales tax and include the relevent text of the law and the link. If they don't refund or refuse to make a refund, then inform them that you "will be informing the IL dept of revenue that they are collecting sales taxes on exempt items, and probably not sending those collected funds to the state. This will probably result in them becoming very interested in your business." >>

    Good call.

    Might want to wait until you received positive feedback, though.
  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I buy and sell currency (and coins) in Illinois. No sales tax. >>



    Ditto on that. I am a dealer of coins and currency in the Land of Lincoln - and a high-ranking official in its state numismatic association as well. Indiana - thats another story!
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  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This ebay seller , judypjcc , charged me sales tax on a thousand dollar purchase;

    a partial set of PCGS Dimes .

    Dawn said that by law ,they have to charge me some 62$ ..........

    Dawn is in Illinois , I am in Illinois .

    I have tried unsucessfully more then several times to reach then via emails

    and phone calls .

    Does anyone know the law in this state and who I should contact ? ? >>



    I have a good idea who they are - they're from Arthur, IL, in Illinois Amish country. And whoever Dawn, she is dead wrong on charging you sales tax.
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  • << <i>

    << <i>..........ooops .....already paid

    But much thanks for all your reply`s ! >>


    So politely request a refund of the sales tax and include the relevent text of the law and the link. If they don't refund or refuse to make a refund, then inform them that you "will be informing the IL dept of revenue that they are collecting sales taxes on exempt items, and probably not sending those collected funds to the state. This will probably result in them becoming very interested in your business." >>



    Condor ,

    I was "polite" , and thank you for stressing that point .

    I did exactly what you suggested- thank you for your solid advice
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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>..........ooops .....already paid

    But much thanks for all your reply`s ! >>


    So politely request a refund of the sales tax and include the relevent text of the law and the link. If they don't refund or refuse to make a refund, then inform them that you "will be informing the IL dept of revenue that they are collecting sales taxes on exempt items, and probably not sending those collected funds to the state. This will probably result in them becoming very interested in your business." >>



    Very interested indeedimage
  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>...........and doran ..........us veterans got to stick together !image >>



    image1000%!
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  • I am not getting any response from the seller .............

    This is the email I sent today :

    Dawn,

    I have not recieved a response reguarding the issue of you charging me State sales tax

    on my purchase of the PCGS dime set ; Ebay item # 8418173852 (May 12 , 2006).

    I want you to refund the mischarged sales tax . If you ignore my request, I will

    escalate this issue . I would like your sales tax I.D # .

    I will also file a dispute with my Credit Card Company . Furthermore , I will

    lodge a complaint with Ebay`s Safe Harbor .

    Lastly , I will be informing the IL dept of revenue that you are collecting sales

    taxes on exempt items, and probably not sending those collected funds to the state.

    This will probably result in them becoming very interested in your business.

    Please avoid a problem and contact me without delay .

    Ebay user I.D : SUPERCARCOINS

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You got screwed. Screw them back. Eat the $62 and turn them in to the proper authorities.
  • .............i just recieved this response !!

    " I am very sorry about that. I forgot that coins do not get taxed .
    I am sending out a refund check today.
    Judy "
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.............i just recieved this response !!

    " I am very sorry about that. I forgot that coins do not get taxed .
    I am sending out a refund check today.
    Judy " >>

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    Turn them in anyways after you get your refund.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Solved!!!

    Good deal!!!
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  • Why would you buy from anyone with 21 negatives on ebay???
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  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would you buy from anyone with 21 negatives on ebay??? >>



    Good question.....image
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  • << <i>Why would you buy from anyone with 21 negatives on ebay??? >>





    well .........i`ll tell you

    I saw they had nearly 7000 transactions ; and a 99.7 % rating

    those negatives break down to about 1 unhapper camper per 350 happy ones .

    I really did not look at their negs per say , but I did see the 99.7 % rating .

    And i gotta say that one person out of 350 ; or , one pissed off /misguided/unhappy one

    per 350 is pretty good around these parts .

    In conclusion though .I will have to be more careful !


  • << <i>

    << <i>Why would you buy from anyone with 21 negatives on ebay??? >>





    well .........i`ll tell you

    I saw they had nearly 7000 transactions ; and a 99.7 % rating

    those negatives break down to about 1 unhapper camper per 350 happy ones .

    I really did not look at their negs per say , but I did see the 99.7 % rating .

    And i gotta say that one person out of 350 ; or , one pissed off /misguided/unhappy one

    per 350 is pretty good around these parts .

    In conclusion though .I will have to be more careful ! >>



    I understand. I also understand that there are many with thousands of sales with 0 negatives.
    Hopefully you will file a complaint with Il. people.
    Good luck and I hope you get your money back
  • thanks RGL ,

  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>.............i just recieved this response !!

    " I am very sorry about that. I forgot that coins do not get taxed .
    I am sending out a refund check today.
    Judy " >>



    Ah, an actual admission from a "Flea-Bay" seller. Amazing! Whats next - politicians actually telling the truth (yeah right!)image
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  • Once you get yer $$, hang the beoch!
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  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Once you get yer $$, hang the beoch! >>



    image
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  • << <i>Ah, an actual admission from a "Flea-Bay" seller. Amazing! Whats next - politicians actually telling the truth (yeah right!) >>


    Well something tells me that they probably don't have a tax number at all and they have been pocketing all the collected tax money. The last thing they want is the state revenue dept snooping around. (Frankly even if you are operating completely above board you don't want the tax people snooping around.)
  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Ah, an actual admission from a "Flea-Bay" seller. Amazing! Whats next - politicians actually telling the truth (yeah right!) >>


    Well something tells me that they probably don't have a tax number at all and they have been pocketing all the collected tax money. The last thing they want is the state revenue dept snooping around. (Frankly even if you are operating completely above board you don't want the tax people snooping around.) >>



    Condor - The State of Illinois has no tax on coins and the Illinois Department of Revenue (who are not the swiftest bunch of people in any room) is only worried about the taxable items (like Red Books and Saflips).
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  • << <i>

    << <i>Ah, an actual admission from a "Flea-Bay" seller. Amazing! Whats next - politicians actually telling the truth (yeah right!) >>


    Well something tells me that they probably don't have a tax number at all and they have been pocketing all the collected tax money. The last thing they want is the state revenue dept snooping around. (Frankly even if you are operating completely above board you don't want the tax people snooping around.) >>




    AMEN TO THAT ......THE TAX PEOPLE SNOOPING AROUND WILL CAUSE EVEN THE MOST HONEST TO GET BROWN STAINS IN THEIR SHORTS !


  • << <i>Condor - The State of Illinois has no tax on coins and the Illinois Department of Revenue (who are not the swiftest bunch of people in any room) is only worried about the taxable items (like Red Books and Saflips). >>


    I understand that but the impression I got is that they are selling a lot of other things besides coins (just checked, I was right they do) and they are collecting sales taxes on those items. Hence my wondering whether or not they are actually submitting those taxes or are they using them as additional profit? If so they would get really nervous at the prospect of having the revenue people notified, agreed?
  • ..........agreed for sure ..........

    let`s hope for their sake they have been paying their taxes properly.....

    they sell a hellova` lot of casino chip`s , cards, and the like .

    Surly `their not ignorant enough to gamble on the TAX MAN !!
  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Condor - The State of Illinois has no tax on coins and the Illinois Department of Revenue (who are not the swiftest bunch of people in any room) is only worried about the taxable items (like Red Books and Saflips). >>


    I understand that but the impression I got is that they are selling a lot of other things besides coins (just checked, I was right they do) and they are collecting sales taxes on those items. Hence my wondering whether or not they are actually submitting those taxes or are they using them as additional profit? If so they would get really nervous at the prospect of having the revenue people notified, agreed? >>



    I think they sell sport cards, and if so, then those who buy them (and flush money down the toilet in the process) then they're subject to sales tax (6.25% in most of Illinois except in a few places (like Chicago, larger towns, and counties who have no concept of sound conservative spending.))
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