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CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
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1 09109594 1968 TOPPS 225 RICHIE ALLEN N/A 9
1 09109595 1968 TOPPS 225 RICHIE ALLEN N/A 9
2 09109596 1979 BURGER KING 4 STEVE CARLTON PHILLIES M/G
2 09109597 1979 BURGER KING 4 STEVE CARLTON PHILLIES M/G
3 09109598 1984 DONRUSS 317 JORGE ORTA N/A M/G
4 09109599 2006 TOPPS STYLE '52 51 SHAQUILLE O'NEAL N/A 10


This was kind of an experiment. The Allen's and Carlton's were previously in 8 slabs and I thought they could get a 9 on the right day. I sent everything in with a min. grade (9 on the Allen's and Carlton's, 10 on the others). I might go this route in the future. There may be a psychological "suggestion" to the grader if you send with a min. grade. Almost like they're rooting for the card to make the grade, so if it's on the fence, maybe they let it slide. Also, I think they'd be hesitant to send back an entire submission "Did not meet min. grade" for fear of losing you as a customer. This happened to me several years ago when I bought 2 trimmed 1950 bowman cards (I didn't know they were trimmed at the time), but I sent them in for 5 day grading, and one came back trimmed and the other came back a 6. The card was 8 or 9 quality if it wasn't trimmed, but I think they gave me a mercy 6 because I spent like $60. I might try the Carlton's one more time for fun.

Lee

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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭
    nice experiment. is there an extra charge for min-grade? can you do this in a regular sub?


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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    So you think they slabbed a trimmed card as a 6, just so as not to reject your entire submission? What made you think it was trimmed?

    I had the opposite- my first submission I sent in 4 cards, and 1 came back as trimmed. I knew it wasn't, and didn't submit another card to PSA for 3 years. When a friend had a large credit on a buy back I submitted a few cards again, including the previously rejected one. It came back a 7, which was the correct grade. So I agree that rejecting cards causes lost customers (especially when they are wrong) but am not sure there is a concerted effort to misgrade a submission just to keep them coming back.

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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    LD- No extra charge for a min. grade and you can do it on any submission.

    Grif- Yeah, I'm pretty sure the card was trimmed- both cards were bought from the same guy, the price was way too good for their condition, and they were both a little short. That was back when I only did modern and didn't know how many card doctors there were out there. I think I even mentioned I thought it was trimmed when I listed it on ebay. I can't say for certain that they intentionally let a trimmed card slip through, but that's the feeling I get. Who knows.

    Lee
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Hmm. What were the 84 Orta and the 06 Shaq graded at originally? Did you send them as cross-overs or did you break them out of their original slabs first?
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought the min. grade was only for crossovers. Is this new that you can use it for any service?
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  • zef204zef204 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭
    I have often wondered about doing this too. In browsing through some of the grades I came across a few 86 fleer that had about 20 cards and 18 were M/G but the other 2 were 10's.

    I think it may put a mental nugget in the graders mind.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭
    are you charged for the ones that didn't meet the grade?


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    David (LD_Ferg)



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  • zef204zef204 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭


    << <i>are you charged for the ones that didn't meet the grade? >>

    Yes.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭
    darn, so much for sending in a 100 card sub and setting m/g to 10...haha

    CDS, congrats on the 9s on a 1968 card..wow!


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    David (LD_Ferg)



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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    The Shaq and Orta were raw.

    Funny, I was always under the impression that you could request min. grade for any submission, but maybe it used to be only for cross-overs.

    I think the min. grade request is a great tool for cards that you're looking to sell that wouldn't bring much money in a lesser grade. A while back there was a thread about someones sub that had straight 10s for over 50 straight serial numbers. This is probably what they did.

    Lee
  • ROCKDJRWROCKDJRW Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    Is it cheaper for the cards not slabbed? If not then why not have them slabbed either way?
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭
    i have a feeling i'd have 50 straight M/G....argh


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    David (LD_Ferg)



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  • bsfastballbsfastball Posts: 455 ✭
    I would whether if the graders would even know that the cards were submitted under "minimum grade".
  • riccaboniriccaboni Posts: 454 ✭


    << <i>I would whether if the graders would even know that the cards were submitted under "minimum grade". >>



    They don't.

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  • NewJerseyMeatHookNewJerseyMeatHook Posts: 1,441
    Nice!

    What was the turnaround?
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Received 7/21.

    Lee
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