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New Purchase: 1922 NGC MS-63 Rim-Toned Peace Dollar -- Interpret the Photos

StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
I purchased this apparently lightly toned 1922 NGC MS-63 Peace Dollar at auction today, and will be interested to see what it looks like in person.

Although it was not listed as a toned coin, it appears to be lightly toned from the seller's following original auction photos, with some light colored peripheral toning on the obverse.

What do you think it will look like in person??

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Stuart

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the evening shift...

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I've got the honor of this being probably the only toned coin thread not to attract any posts... imageimage

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    I think the photo will be fairly accurate on that one, Stuart. The reverse will not be as dark, that's just the lighting. The coin might wind up being a bit brighter/lighter colored in person.

    That's pretty much how Peace dollars tend to tone.
  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like it is showing nice luster under the toning. Cool looking Peace Stuart.
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Take a look at the difference in slab color from the obverse pic to the reverse pic; the actual coin in-hand will have a lighter reverse.
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  • Peace Dollars tend to have a gold tone. At least a good number I`ve seen do ( which really isn`t that many as some of the real Peace experts here on the forum ) .

    There looks to be start right before the " I " and ending before the " E " a band of color on the rim of the Obverse. The area in and around the Tiarra is one of the most protected areas. Some of The MS Peace Dollars` lustre I have seem to be different in the Tiarra as it looks like " Pearlesence " .

    Also I have a few that tone almost only on the rim and not going much beyond. That seems to be the case here too.

    Probably not alot of imformation to grab on to. I have a hard time with darker pics.image
  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭


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    What do you think it will look like in person??

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    Hard to say, Stuart, but the "light colored peripheral toning" looks quite promising... and at anywhere near sheet for a common date peace dollar in 3 i'm sure you're going to do just fine!

    z
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    thumbs up

    K S
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I think the coin in hand will look nice. Both pictures are dark, just the reverse is darker. I'll bet its a handsome coin with decent rim toning.
    I like it.

  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks to all of my fellow forum members for posting your astute observations and comments about my new 1922 NGC MS-63 Rim-Toned Toned Peace Dollar. image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭

    I think you'll find the coin hairlined (lightly cleaned), impromperly stablized, some natural toning sections (as a result of improper stabilization post cleaning), and the rest artificically/acceleratedly retoned.

    I hope I'm wrong and it is as others have commented.

  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MercuryDimeGuy: Thanks for your post.

    I'd appreciate if you'd please let me know how you were able to arrive at such a detailed assessment of htis coin from the original auction images provided?? image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    - Previous experience buying such coins both sight seen and sight unseen, and the statistical probability of the scenario I proposed (first below) based on the first part of this sentence.

    - It's an MS63 1922 Peace $1, and the only value it would have is if it was in a holder, because raw it would sell for slightly above melt ($20-$25, maybe?).

    - The fact that someone would pay $15 to slab a coin you can buy for $20-$25 -- clearly they are trying to get a "holder" premium for the color because raw, well, look at bullet point 2. And if the only way they can get a color premium is if it is in a holder, well then that means that there is a good likelihood that someone might question the coin.

    - Having seen 1000's of NGC slabbed common date MS63 Peace dollars, some that look like that one (with and without toning).

    - First bullet point image

    When the coin comes to you via mail, would you feel comfortable that the coin would slab again no problem at either of the top 2 TPG's if it was cracked out?

    All kidding aside, though, I hope it is a wonderfully original coin and I'm dead wrong...I would truly be happy if I was wrong and you will receive a wonderfully original coin.

    Please, let us know.

    Best, MDG.
  • Kinda reminds me of when I bought a 1938 - D Buffalo Nickel in MS66 for $65. I showed to my brother and he said in a angry tone " You paid that much for a Nickel !? " It`s pretty nice too.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MercuryDimeGuy & CCR: Thanks for your posts and comments about my new 1922 NGC MS-63 Rim-Toned Peace Dollar!! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"

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