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Just what causes "CC" to mesmerize collectors?

291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
There seems to be something about the Carson City mint that collectors love. They treasure its issues, even the common ones.

A friend of mine buys every common date CC dime he can find. I don't know just why he does it.

Thoughts?
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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A genuine piece of history from the Comstock Lode for those that can't afford Charlottes or Dahlonegas???

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that those who have an interest in US history are drawn to CC coins because of the interesting historical associations and the conjuring of imagery of the Wild West. Some of the coins are legitimately scarce/rare and are of numismatic significance (ie. jdimmick's 70-CC quarter). Others are pedestrian (typical GSA 84-CC Morgans).

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  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭
    The History, The Time, The Comstock load of Silver in there back yard. It's all good stuff.


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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are going to choose one mintmark to collect, choosing the CC mark would help to limit your collection (compared to someone who collected P or D or S coins, for example). Plus, the "Old West" idea is a facet of Americana that attracts many.


  • << <i>I think that those who have an interest in US history are drawn to CC coins because of the interesting historical associations and the conjuring of imagery of the Wild West. Some of the coins are legitimately scarce/rare and are of numismatic significance (ie. jdimmick's 70-CC quarter). Others are pedestrian (typical GSA 84-CC Morgans). >>



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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The History, The Time, The Comstock load of Silver in there back yard. It's all good stuff. >>



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    I think it's similar to wanting to own a US mint coin from the 1700's.

  • Because a CC mint comes with extra stories.
  • I think part of it, too, is the fact that the CC mint doesn't make coins any more.

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    People like the Wild West, a time period the "CC" mintmark is inextricably linked to. The "S" mint would be too, if not for the fact it basically continued minting to this day. Comparitively, the CC mark is locked into a particular time period.
  • By the time the Comstock Lode came about and metal coinage being perfered, raw metal where being sent to San Fransisco to be coined. When that became common knowledge, it was no surprise that stagecoaches where being robbed. So yeah, it`s a sign of the times mint of the " Wild West " days. Also the only mintmark with 2 letters.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,287 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>People like the Wild West, a time period the "CC" mintmark is inextricably linked to. >>


    Yup, and also the 2 letter mintmark. Put yourself in the shoes of a beginner on a shoestring budget.

    Noob: "What's with the CC mintmark?"
    HCoD*: "Carson City, Nevada. Opened upon discovery of the Comstock Lode and only struck coins between 1870 and 1893, never in great quantity."
    Noob: "Cool, a real piece of the Wild West!"

    Now change CC to any other mint and try to conjure up the same degree of mental imagery that CC does. Doesn't work unless you're already a southern gold junkie.

    Actually, I'm surprised CC-mint coins haven't been promoted in Europe, given the fascination with the Wild West there. Probably currently too expensive for the promoters to get over there in quantity.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    here's the deal. when you buy a coin w/ "CC" on it, that's a chunk of silver that came straight out of the ground from the comstock lode. they didn't bring silver in from philly, florida, mexico, wherever, but straight out of the ground. that's why it's so desirable. you KNOW that silver came out of the comstock lode. there's no quibbling about it!

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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    After a trip to Carson City, it's even easier to be mesmerized. Cutesy little town and a state capitol building with a silver dome (same silver as used for the coins).

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  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭
    The fact that allot fo the coins atually circulated in the "wild west" intrigues many.
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    The history, the GSA hoard, and the CC mint-mark.

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  • Mesmerized - You are getting sleepy, very sleepy. You are asleep!
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    When I snap my fingers, you will wake up and NEVER buy CC coins again!

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  • Maybe, visions of Cowboys, Indians and the Wild, Wild West ???



  • Two mint marks for the price of one?
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    I used to live just over the "hill" from Carson City, in the old Mother Lode area, so it's always been a favorite of mine.


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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The CC Mint produced some of the best DMPL's out there. They were very meticulous on making sure those dies were ready for striking.



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  • For me, it is the history and location of the mint. What I imagine is stagecoaches rolling by the old mint as press #1 rolls out 1889-CC silver dollars. Meanwhile, just down the street are the gambling parlors where the newly minted silver dollars clank onto the tables as poker is being played. I could sell all my other Morgans, but I think I'll have my CC Morgan collection till I die.
  • Two weeks ago I visited Carson City, the old mint, and of course Virginia City. Went into an old mine, wandered around the wooden plank sidewalks and walked into the same saloons that silver miners drank at...
    There is simply something magnificent and mysterious about the old west, and the concept of the silver boom in that area. It all feels like some movie that captures a time when everything was what it looked like it was... no complexity, just silver, power, liquor and women. The CC coins capture all of that for me for some reason. I'd love to own more... I have just two CC dollars (a 79 and an 84) and a dime (don't even remember the date). I'd never trade nor sell these. They represent something we almost remember... want to remember... and can't get back.


  • << <i>Two weeks ago I visited Carson City, the old mint, and of course Virginia City. Went into an old mine, wandered around the wooden plank sidewalks and walked into the same saloons that silver miners drank at...
    There is simply something magnificent and mysterious about the old west, and the concept of the silver boom in that area. It all feels like some movie that captures a time when everything was what it looked like it was... no complexity, just silver, power, liquor and women. The CC coins capture all of that for me for some reason. I'd love to own more... I have just two CC dollars (a 79 and an 84) and a dime (don't even remember the date). I'd never trade nor sell these. They represent something we almost remember... want to remember... and can't get back. >>



    You've caught the "CC bug". Pretty soon you'll have the entire 13 year set of Morgans. Maybe even the 1880-CC Rev of '78 for good measure. image
  • I had a CC Trade Dollar I eventually got rid of but....it's one of the few coins I'd love to have back if I could...image
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    It's the two-letter thing for me. I am a simple creature.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember as a young boy collecting in Philly and of course the no mint mark and D mint mark were common and occasionally I'd find an S which was so cool. Then as I rapidly got more involved in the hobby - "discovering" the CC coins - I think the scarcity of the Carson City mintage compared to other mint marks was the main thing if I had to choose what "mesmerized" me.


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    << <i>Two weeks ago I visited Carson City, the old mint, and of course Virginia City. Went into an old mine, wandered around the wooden plank sidewalks and walked into the same saloons that silver miners drank at...
    There is simply something magnificent and mysterious about the old west, and the concept of the silver boom in that area. It all feels like some movie that captures a time when everything was what it looked like it was... no complexity, just silver, power, liquor and women. The CC coins capture all of that for me for some reason. I'd love to own more... I have just two CC dollars (a 79 and an 84) and a dime (don't even remember the date). I'd never trade nor sell these. They represent something we almost remember... want to remember... and can't get back. >>



    You've caught the "CC bug". Pretty soon you'll have the entire 13 year set of Morgans. Maybe even the 1880-CC Rev of '78 for good measure. image >>



    I'd love to... but the cost of the bloody things...


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    << <i>Two weeks ago I visited Carson City, the old mint, and of course Virginia City. Went into an old mine, wandered around the wooden plank sidewalks and walked into the same saloons that silver miners drank at...
    There is simply something magnificent and mysterious about the old west, and the concept of the silver boom in that area. It all feels like some movie that captures a time when everything was what it looked like it was... no complexity, just silver, power, liquor and women. The CC coins capture all of that for me for some reason. I'd love to own more... I have just two CC dollars (a 79 and an 84) and a dime (don't even remember the date). I'd never trade nor sell these. They represent something we almost remember... want to remember... and can't get back. >>



    You've caught the "CC bug". Pretty soon you'll have the entire 13 year set of Morgans. Maybe even the 1880-CC Rev of '78 for good measure. image >>



    I'd love to... but the cost of the bloody things... >>



    I hear ya. It's been a goal I had since I was fifteen and couldn't afford the GSA auction. The prices on these coins are up at least 10x since 1979, when I couldn't afford them.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    oh my

    my my my my my my my my my my my

    you need at least one cc mintmark in your collection other than the already sexy cc morgan dollar

    then it is the wild west the comstock load and the magic and romance the lost dutchman mine

    you desire a seated dollar the first demonination struck in the year 1870 at the carson city mint

    so the 1870 cc seated dollar first coin struck at the carson city mint!!

    then you want the 1878 cc quarter the ladt year of the quarter dollar struck at the cc mint but you want the cancelled die obverse wow a really sexy coin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you deside on a cc minted morgan from the 1870's the end of the wild west decade and of course you wANT A CHOICE UNC soi you choose the 1878 cc morgan as the 79 cc in really chouice close to gem unc would be almost 9600 smac kers

    now the 78 cc usually comes fully struck lusterous and beautiful in choice unc close to gem and only cost you hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 700.00

    now what will you buy next???? in that cc coin type set you are now off and running to complete??

    may i suggest the cc twenty cent piece 1875 cc? bedofe they go up anymore??

  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There seems to be something about the Carson City mint that collectors love. They treasure its issues, even the common ones.

    A friend of mine buys every common date CC dime he can find. I don't know just why he does it.

    Thoughts? >>



    I can only speak for myself on this one. When I was a kid, I had some silver dollars, my parents had some, and my grandmother had some. They still circulated back then a little bit. At some point, I discovered the dates and how old they were. I saw that the earliest one was 1878. Later, I discovered the Red Book and started looking at the mintmarks. There were older dollars that looked different that had higher prices and I wondered why we didn't have any of them. I saw that some Morgans were made in Carson City, and we didn't have any of them either. Not one. At that point I felt there was a mystique about them, and about the seated dollars, too.

    That mystique has never gone away. I bought an 1876-CC dime and thought that was cool as heck. At some point I bought an 1890-CC Morgan, which I still have and can clearly see now is cleaned. Still like it, cleaned or not. Lately I've been buying Carson City halves, and last year I bought an 1870-CC seated dollar, with a mintage of approximately 11,000. A Morgan with a mintage like that would go for five figures, but that seated dollar was under $1000. Seems pretty cool to me. image

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