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What do you think of these three raw gold coins? (including one Dahlonega $5)

RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
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A non-collector contacted me through my website and asked me what I thought about a Dahlonega $5 that he had inherited. He also inherited two other common date gold coins. What do YOU think? I will post my opinions later.

1853 G$1:

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1855-D $5:

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1901-S $5:

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My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They all look slightly worn.

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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Is the 55-d HE fake?
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is my authentic 1855-D $5 for comparison:

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    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349 ✭
    They all look dipped. image

    But they all look like scans, too. So that could account for it.

    -Amanda
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  • ReeceReece Posts: 378 ✭✭✭
    If they are not fake they are sure ugly!!image
    RWK
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 55-D looks like a nice 45+ that will end up in a 50 holder sooner or later and it will be perfectly acceptable.

    The other two coins don't matter, but it is neat that the gold dollar has a three digit date.
    Andy Lustig

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are my thoughts:

    The 1853 gold dollar looks suspect. The "1" in the date is invisible.

    The other two appear genuine. I have never heard of a legitimate fake Dahlonega coin, and circ coins are generally not counterfeit.

    The real difficulty is assessing the surfaces by the images for cleaning/originality. The 1855-D $5 could grade up to AU-50 (at least XF-45).

    The owner asked me about the value of the coins. If the 55-D $5 is relatively original, it is a $2500-3000 coin, maybe more. The gold dollar is about $120, and the 01-S $5 about $150-75.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1853 gold dollar looks suspect. The "1" in the date is invisible.

    I'm as sure as I can be that it's real. Whether it's a struck-through-grease problem or something else, I wouldn't guess without seeing it in person.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << The 1853 gold dollar looks suspect. The "1" in the date is invisible.>>

    <<I'm as sure as I can be that it's real. Whether it's a struck-through-grease problem or something else, I wouldn't guess without seeing it in person. >>


    That's something that never crossed my mind, but I think that you are correct. Thanks!
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Are those pics accurate. If so, I really don't care for the look for some reason
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Those look like typical eBay photos to me... image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are those pics accurate?

    Beats me. They look like scans. The non-collector is obviously not very good at coin imaging. I would guess/hope that the color and surface look different with the coin in hand.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • Derek2100Derek2100 Posts: 248
    Appear heavily worn not more than F-VF possibly cleaned. If someone brought these to my table would not offer more than 80% of melt. Then if successful would flip to someone interested in keeping for long term.

    These aren't something I view as "keeper coins." And this is what u guys drool over LOL?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If someone brought these to my table would not offer more than 80% of melt.

    80% melt for a Dahlonega $5? You really are a common thief.

    And this is what u guys drool over LOL?

    You have never handled the coins that I "drool over". image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 55-D is too well struck to be real. I don't think I have seen a 55-D that was struck as well as the coin in question. Are the coins the correct weight?
    Mr Commem
    Overland Trail Collection Showcase
    Dahlonega Type Set-2008 PCGS Best Exhibited Set
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    all 3 look cleaned to me. there's no way to realistically authenticate from these digi-pics, but i see no particular evidence of spurious strikes

    K S
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have not seen these in person, just the scans that the non-collector sent to me. Apparently, they have been in her family since 1963, when a parent or grandparent found them as part of an estate acquisition. The non-collector was offered $1400 for the 55-D $5 but wanted to do some research to see if this was reasonable. If the coin has been cleaned (and I cannot tell for sure from the scan), that probably is in the ballpark. If the coin is original, she could probably do better, especially selling directly to a collector. I have suggested that she get the coin authenticated by PCGS/NGC, and if the coin slabs, it probably would be more liquid and salable. That's my part in this tale.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭


    << <i> If someone brought these to my table would not offer more than 80% of melt.

    80% melt for a Dahlonega $5? You really are a common thief.

    And this is what u guys drool over LOL?

    You have never handled the coins that I "drool over". image >>




    This is why Ryk is one of my favorite posters image
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  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Appear heavily worn not more than F-VF possibly cleaned. If someone brought these to my table would not offer more than 80% of melt. Then if successful would flip to someone interested in keeping for long term. >>



    I guess this is all we need to know about you, isn't it.

    mirabela
  • DeusExMachinaDeusExMachina Posts: 1,325 ✭


    << <i> If someone brought these to my table would not offer more than 80% of melt.

    80% melt for a Dahlonega $5? You really are a common thief.

    And this is what u guys drool over LOL?

    You have never handled the coins that I "drool over". image >>



    Classic! Great reply RYK.

    Paying anything less than melt for a 19th century US gold coin is beyond ridiculous. BTW, watch out for that bolt of lightning....
  • beartracks42beartracks42 Posts: 2,834 ✭

    << If someone brought these to my table would not offer more than 80% of melt.

    80% melt for a Dahlonega $5? You really are a common thief.

    And this is what u guys drool over LOL?


    There should really be some kind of qualification exam for participation on this forum. That would certainly eliminate trolls such as this idiot.image
    Gary
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  • sablefoxsablefox Posts: 23
    These 3 gold coins belong to my husband and myself. In 1963 my husband's grandmother knew the rarity of the 1855 coin and wrote on the envelope "rare" Dahlonega, GA. The images are scans. I was not able to take clear pictures with my digital camera. The coins have beautiful color in person. We are going to send them to the NGC for professional grading to find out their classification and to verify their authenticity. This seems to be the only way to validate them to people who cannot view them. We are also taking them to a reputable dealer for his opinion. We are very much amateurs, but realize their value to a serious coin collector. Appreciate your input.
  • Derek2100Derek2100 Posts: 248
    jewelry material
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>jewelry material >>



    You're still a tool, and people are STILL laughing at you... Just like they did in the locker room in Junior High.

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  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    dere seems to be a couple putzes in this thread.

    80 % of melt ?

    WTF
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  • mhammermanmhammerman Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭
    He's a bozo...let's just enjoy the moment.
  • sablefoxsablefox Posts: 23
    I have taken photos of the gold 1855 $5 coin. If I can figure out how to get them attached, you will be able to see them as they actually are. Thanks imageimage
  • SilverEagles92SilverEagles92 Posts: 6,787 ✭
    Here they are!

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  • sablefoxsablefox Posts: 23


    << <i>Here they are!

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    Thanks again and again

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