Searched case-leave a neg?

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

I bought a 89 Fleer rack case. 3 box. Fleer tape was intact but you could easily in 89 use something and reseal it without being able to tell. *I wont mention how to promote further fraud*

I opened 2 boxes and pulled not 1 Bill Ripken,Griffey,Randy Johnson,Mcgwire or Mattingly. I used collation patterns to see that the 3rd box will have the same results. Usually pull 1-2 of each from a box. I have opened many rack boxes from 89 Fleer and this is obviously a cherry pick deal. Seller has yet to respond to my comments. I could of been done by anyone. Should I leave a neutral feedback or ?? I plan on stating case was resealed in feedback but unsure if pos/neg/neutral.

Please advise.

Donovan

storm888

If you can find an expert to agree with your view,
I think you should file with eBay and PayPal, or
your credit-card company.

The only way to stop this nonsense is to start
depriving the scamsters of their money.

storm

carew4me

Who would cherry pick crap?

Unless it was done around 1989?

jimq112

<< <i>Who would cherry pick crap?

Unless it was done around 1989? >>



I'm not sure 89 fleer is crap. I don't collect it but I think there's some randy johnson rookies with variations and some are halfway scarce. I also heard a rumor about some bill ripken errors, not sure if that one is true -

MorrellMan

I would try to resolve the issue with the seller. Get his phone number, call him and discuss your concerns as would one businessman to another - leaving negative feedback won't accomplish anything constructive, since the seller may not have been the cherry-picker.

digicat

<< <i>Who would cherry pick crap?

Unless it was done around 1989? >>



I've enountered searched/resealed 1986 Topps baseball wax boxes and 1990 Donruss baseball wax boxes. It happens.


Edit to say...
The crook who searched the 1986 Topps boxes seemed to be looking for Tom Seavers. The crook who searched the 1990 Donruss boxes was looking for Griffeys (2nd year card!).


Who knows what their diseased criminal mind was thinking.

carew4me

My point was not to call the issue crap per se but who would search cards where the max value of what you could raid is minimal to none and widely available?

NickM

carew - in 1989, some of those cards sold for decent money.

Nick

gemint

People used to search that stuff back in the day when they actually were worth money. I remember dealers selling Fleer would have to cover the opened boxes when selling packs so people who knew the collation patterns wouldn't benefit.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

Based on what I have pulled they were searched in 89. The biggest names I pulled were Sheffield and Biggio. A common I think in 89. The Griffey is close to the Johnson in collation pattern and the Bill Ripken based on the product code was probally the white scribble. A version that sold for $100 on occasion in 89.

I will call the seller. Good idea.

Thanks.
Anyone want to but my last box? LOL

80sJunkie

thats the problem with 89 fleer they were easily searchable without opening. And your right the fleer seal can be opened and put back but there are tell tale signs if the tape has been moved. Unfortunatly that case probably changed hands quite a few times since 89 so i would try to work with the dealer first and see what you can work out.

ColleSystem

<< <i>Unless it was done around 1989? >>



This is right on. Remember, the Ripken cards in 1989 were right at the height of the error card craze, which is the precursor to todays insert cards.

Scott

5STAT

I had a similar thread 6 months ago.....same problem...

Not affraid to come out and say that it came from Kruks Cards...they never answered my emails either.

As for this stuff being labeled junk....well if you search 100 cases and put away 800- 1,000 of each star....throw in the possiblility of grading....there's huge returns in the future..

what if the cases had the Billy Ripken FF card....BIG money..even today..

As for the 3rd box...I'll buy it from you...LMK how much delivered to MA. I use packs and racks as give aways at shows and charity events. That pretty much goes for ANY cheap wax from the 80's and 90's!!

80sJunkie

I must 2nd I stopped buying from kruk cards there stuff is definatly searched and i also have no problem saying that last chance i gave them bought 4 82 fleer vending all 4 diff boxes a b c d description was 3 sets outt of the 4 which should be true. Only problem no ryans ripkens or any stars. I really dont know how they stay open. Oh well after that i found bbc exchange and i've gotten nothing but beautiful boxes

5STAT

I have no problems buying stuff that is searched as long as I KNOW it is...and am paying a fair price according to this. (edit: Because I'm not reselling them)

There was a guy at the show last week that had 89 Donruss racks. He came out and said that they were , to the best of his knowledge, stripped of Griffeys and Randy Johnson. I still bought 2 cases at $15 each knowing this. 1st off, $15 is dirt....2nd, I ripped 99% of them anyways. No one was searching for Schilling back in the day...I got 13 from the cases...as well as the rest of the stars and a Sheffields.

All in all...is was just cheap fun to rip...and I have cards to add to player stacks...and some nice cards worthy of 10's!!

I did save 11 racks to add to the give away box. Each one had a star on it showing...or a Red Sox player(s) showing.

Now, picture a little kid at a local Boston show. They walk up looking for Red Sox players...or their favorite player...
While dad glosses over cards, you hand the kid a free rack and say, "well, if you like Roger Clemens...I have a nice one for you right here".....

The smiles are worth their weight in gold....and besides, it keeps the mothers and fathers happy and they come back to your table show after show.
It's a great ice breaker...and leads to some great sales...