1909 IHC struck on a 1906 Barber dime

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  • ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭
    That is awesome!!!
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  • << <i>WAY COOL !! >>



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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭
    I hope to look at it in Long Beach. What a great error to put away for the kids.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 13,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the NGC slab and Heritage auction title are correct, isn't this a 1909 IHC struck over a 1906 Barber dime? If so, wouldn't this have to be a purposefully manipulated, contrived "error" produced clandestinely?
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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,667 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If the NGC slab and Heritage auction title are correct, isn't this a 1909 IHC struck over a 1906 Barber dime? If so, wouldn't this have to be a purposefully manipulated, contrived "error" produced clandestinely? >>




    Thats my take on it . Having a little fun at the mint !!
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,676 ✭✭✭
    I was going to say that it's not an example of a Mint error, it's an example of Mint workers having fun.
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  • coinJPcoinJP Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was going to say that it's not an example of a Mint error, it's an example of Mint workers having fun. >>


    I agree but it's still a killer coin!
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 20,065 ✭✭✭
    If they can strike a 1970-S proof Washington quarter on a Barber quarter, why not this?

    BTW, can anyone find and post a picture of the 70-S? I tried and failed.
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  • very cool but I am fairly certain it did not occur by mistake. Errors like that tend to have been "helped" while in the mint.
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,431

    All I have to say is that's weird and.......made purposely.

    My mind really can't fathom that type of error occuring any other way.
  • Per Heritage's auction copy:

    Previously, a 1906 Barber dime was produced, then became lodged in a large tote bin at the Philadelphia Mint. Some time later, this bin was filled with cent planchets, the struck dime was knocked loose, and eventually found its way into the press run for Indian cents some three years later. That is how we presume this error occurred. How else could a 1906 dime find its way to the cent press in 1909?

    There you have it, the Dime was stuck in a large tote bin for a few years. Makes perfect sense.
  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,374 ✭✭
    Who buys this coin a Barber or Indian collector?

    Either way this is a neat coin
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  • segojasegoja Posts: 5,769 ✭✭✭
    Cool one, but me thinks this one is even cooler!!!

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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,704 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Who buys this coin a Barber or Indian collector?

    Either way this is a neat coin >>



    Collecting both, that's a really a cool coin !!!

    What ever happened to that proof washington quarter struck on a Barber quarter ?
    I'd love to work at the mint for "just one hour" and boy oh boy would I have fun !!!

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 20,065 ✭✭✭
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  • That is awesome. image

    Are they both dated 1909?

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  • Come on Amanda. Read the thread title. You're better than that!!!
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  • << <i>Come on Amanda. Read the thread title. You're better than that!!! >>



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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,704 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Who would buy this coin? Let me think! image

    Its going to be very expensive! >>



    Who ? Me ?image

    Nah, I'm just a Wannabe collector of Realy Neat Errors...That one is very special, isn't it ?
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  • interesting 11 cent coin



    will it go for 100K?
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  • 100K? Not quite. Sold for one bid increment over me on the floor. If I hadnt been bidding on the internet (had a tug-o-war with some other bidder), it would not have sold for $25K, I believe. image
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
    I bought the coin, and I had bets
    with other dealers at the show that
    it would bring in the area of $75K,
    possibly even more, if there were
    two strong bidders.

    The coin is sold to a strong, and
    serious collector.......

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭
    Very cool! Thanks for the post.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 20,065 ✭✭✭
    If I hadnt been bidding on the internet (had a tug-o-war with some other bidder), it would not have sold for $25K, I believe.

    Lloyd - I had a 24K bid on the book and I did not expect to come as close as I did.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 22,594 ✭✭✭
    WOWZER!!!
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 20,065 ✭✭✭
    BTW, for those that don't know it, the coin hammered at 32.5K.
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  • now that is a collection that would be fun to see.
  • It sold for $37,375. That's what it's worth. Why is it everytime a coin sells at an auction, (which anyone could have a shot at), it suddenly is worth DOUBLE???

    I believe it's worth $20,000, tops.

    Sold a house last month. Should not have. It is worth double today. imageimage
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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 13,559 ✭✭✭
    I agree Lloyd

    My grandfather always used to say "It's only worth what someone is willing to pay"
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭
    I am trying to see if the Barber dime might have had a mint mark... but it's tough to tell. I'd be amused if it was a 1906-D, 1906-S, or 1906-O dime, which would shoot holes in the "tote bin" theory and essentially confirm the "mint employees having fun" theory. Plus it would present a unique opportunity to potentially acquire a 1909-D or 1909-O Indian Cent, struck in silver, of course. image
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
    I examined the coin raw, and both
    strikes are from the Phila. Mint......

    And, at $20,000, I'll take another
    half-dozen of 'em......just ship.....
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  • Shipping charge $17,000, Fred!!! (Each) image
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  • The coin is sold to a strong, and
    serious collector........


    At $32k I would hope so!

    Interesting 'error' coin.
  • A very interesting error.

    -Dean

    Edited for typo.
  • Fred- please wait your turn. I get the next half dozen or so.
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
    By the way, if I wasn't bidding
    for the customer (and I told him
    I didn't think it would go under
    $50K at all !), I would have
    happily bought it for myself,
    and even would have paid more
    for it that I had to in the auction.

    Because I didn't think it would go
    for under $50K, I didn't even
    discuss with the customer what
    would happen if it DID go for under
    $35/$40K....my mistake !

    As I said months ago, it was an
    absolutely BREATHTAKING coin, and
    one of the neatest Type Coin errors
    I've seen in 20-20 years -

    Laura's 1862 Indian Cent Cap (from the
    Heritage Platinum Night in Denver) would
    also be a candidate for that previous
    statment.....

    (or as I call the coin, "The Seven Fingered Indian")


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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 20,065 ✭✭✭
    It sold for $37,375. That's what it's worth.

    Lloyd - Nonsense. I have bought thousands of coins at auction over the years that were very clearly worth more than I paid.
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  • Andy -

    You know me better. Maybe I am jealous. Had my daughters big birthday bash, and couldn't pull of phone bidding. Anyway, it is a cool error, but not one of my top favorites. If my top two ever show up, you'll know which ones they are because I will be IN THE FRONT ROW!!!

    What amazes me is how these things show up, and I (and most of us I presume) never knew they existed.

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  • What amazes me is how these things show up, and I (and most of us I presume) never knew they existed. >>





    You got that right! I think I've found a new collecting area for myself!


  • << <i>
    What amazes me is how these things show up, and I (and most of us I presume) never knew they existed. >>


    Yes, and what about the ones we know exist but can not find? Like the missing 1849 $20 pieces or the 1895 Morgan 1$... who knows what numismatic treasures lie out of numismatic grasps. Only time will bring them forward if ever.
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What amazes me is how these things show up, and I (and most of us I presume) never knew they existed. >>



    Komodo dragon, okapi, lowland gorilla, Megamouth shark...all within the last 100 years.
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