worse! i inquired about a 1912 s v 5c at a flea market once and noted the coin was maybe too dirty looking for me where upon the dealer stated ` oh, it,ll clean up nice` then walked away for a sec then returned to show how it would `clean up` he took to whizzing the coin with steel wool right in front of me!. i was totally speechless...shocked more like it really. i just sorta smiled and politely declined the offer. guess he didnt know what he was doing was VERY bad, or he thought i might like the coin better after he `cleaned it up` the whole ordeal just freaked me out.
<< <i>worse! i inquired about a 1912 s v 5c at a flea market once and noted the coin was maybe too dirty looking for me where upon the dealer stated ` oh, it,ll clean up nice` then walked away for a sec then returned to show how it would `clean up` he took to whizzing the coin with steel wool right in front of me!. i was totally speechless...shocked more like it really. i just sorta smiled and politely declined the offer. guess he didnt know what he was doing was VERY bad, or he thought i might like the coin better after he `cleaned it up` the whole ordeal just freaked me out. >>
I'd have told him that he decreased the value by this.
Pushing a little oil into a coin will serve to clean it and help hide old cleaning. It will usually give it a more natural appearance. Of course this should not be done to un- circulated or proof coins and zinc should be stabilized in alcohol afterward.
Like with all cleaning there might be something under the dirt that's even uglier so some learning is required to do it properly.
Thumbing is used on a coin like a Morgan dollar with shinny bag marks on the cheek. The body oils and heat from the friction of rubbing the thumb against the coin will dull the shinny spots and make them less noticable against the frosty background of Ms Liberty's cheek. Its an attempt to make the coin appear to have a higher grade than it deserves.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
i saw a dealer, real flamboyant type with the gold chains, rolex, etc. ask another dealer for a look at a bu morgan at a show. he took the coin out of the flip, promptly tossed it across the room against a wall, and muttering about what a pos it was, paid the astounded dealer for the marked price of the coin.
same guy, while sitting at the bar, asked another dealer how much he paid for his quartz watch. "$10", and he says, let me see it and 2nd dealer hands it over. he drops it into the guy's drink and hands him a twenty to buy a better one.
<< <i>No but he dipped a roll of silver halves in front of me I had just bought from him - now thats service. >>
Were you acting as a dealer when he did this or a collector? From a lot of your posts, I would say you fancy yourself a dealer, so, if that is the case, did you ask him to dip them for you?
Yes, I had a dipped uncirculated 1872 indian cent that was clearly pink. The dealer, at the Long Beach show, proceeded to take oil from the outside of his nose and rub it in to the coin. I could not believe she would do this right in front of me. She then said she was not interested in the coin.
<< <i>i saw a dealer, real flamboyant type with the gold chains, rolex, etc. ask another dealer for a look at a bu morgan at a show. he took the coin out of the flip, promptly tossed it across the room against a wall >>
What is UP with these dealers who think they can just throw around coins? Are they just so damned arrogant? If it was MY coin, there'd be broken bones. If it was someone elses coin, I'd look at the dealer and let him know what an ass he was
<< <i>Yes, I had a dipped uncirculated 1872 indian cent that was clearly pink. The dealer, at the Long Beach show, proceeded to take oil from the outside of his nose and rub it in to the coin. I could not believe she would do this right in front of me. She then said she was not interested in the coin.
Tom >>
You should have reached into your nose, grabbed a woog and rubbed it on one of her display cases. In front of her of course.
"to you, a hero is some kind of weird sandwich..."
<< <i>Yes, I had a dipped uncirculated 1872 indian cent that was clearly pink. The dealer, at the Long Beach show, proceeded to take oil from the outside of his nose and rub it in to the coin. I could not believe she would do this right in front of me. She then said she was not interested in the coin.
Tom >>
You should have reached into your nose, grabbed a woog and rubbed it on one of her display cases. In front of her of course. >>
I would have asked to see the most expensive proof in her display case and returned the favor.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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<< <i>Not Familiar with the term ? Is this good, like thumbs UP or not ? >>
It's a practice used to put body oils on a coin to hide hairlines or evidence of cleaning.
-Amanda
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<< <i>when the dealer is looking at your coin he rubs his thumb...very sneakily across the the obverse to lower it's appearance >>
I think Amanda has it right. Look at the post above yours.
i inquired about a 1912 s v 5c at a flea market once and noted the coin was maybe too dirty looking for me
where upon the dealer stated ` oh, it,ll clean up nice` then walked away for a sec then returned to show how it would `clean up`
he took to whizzing the coin with steel wool right in front of me!. i was totally speechless...shocked more like it really.
i just sorta smiled and politely declined the offer.
guess he didnt know what he was doing was VERY bad, or he thought i might like the coin better after he `cleaned it up`
the whole ordeal just freaked me out.
-Amanda
I'm a YN working on a type set!
My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!
Proud member of the CUFYNA
<< <i>worse!
i inquired about a 1912 s v 5c at a flea market once and noted the coin was maybe too dirty looking for me
where upon the dealer stated ` oh, it,ll clean up nice` then walked away for a sec then returned to show how it would `clean up`
he took to whizzing the coin with steel wool right in front of me!. i was totally speechless...shocked more like it really.
i just sorta smiled and politely declined the offer.
guess he didnt know what he was doing was VERY bad, or he thought i might like the coin better after he `cleaned it up`
the whole ordeal just freaked me out.
>>
I'd have told him that he decreased the value by this.
Pushing a little oil into a coin will serve to clean it and help hide old cleaning. It will
usually give it a more natural appearance. Of course this should not be done to un-
circulated or proof coins and zinc should be stabilized in alcohol afterward.
Like with all cleaning there might be something under the dirt that's even uglier so some
learning is required to do it properly.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
same guy, while sitting at the bar, asked another dealer how much he paid for his quartz watch. "$10", and he says, let me see it and 2nd dealer hands it over. he drops it into the guy's drink and hands him a twenty to buy a better one.
not quite as sneaky as thumbing someone's coin.
no
<< <i>No but he dipped a roll of silver halves in front of me I had just bought from him - now thats service. >>
Were you acting as a dealer when he did this or a collector? From a lot of your posts, I would say you fancy yourself a dealer, so, if that is the case, did you ask him to dip them for you?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Tom
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
<< <i>i saw a dealer, real flamboyant type with the gold chains, rolex, etc. ask another dealer for a look at a bu morgan at a show. he took the coin out of the flip, promptly tossed it across the room against a wall >>
What is UP with these dealers who think they can just throw around coins? Are they just so damned arrogant? If it was MY coin, there'd be broken bones. If it was someone elses coin, I'd look at the dealer and let him know what an ass he was
<< <i>Yes, I had a dipped uncirculated 1872 indian cent that was clearly pink. The dealer, at the Long Beach show, proceeded to take oil from the outside of his nose and rub it in to the coin. I could not believe she would do this right in front of me. She then said she was not interested in the coin.
Tom >>
You should have reached into your nose, grabbed a woog and rubbed it on one of her display cases. In front of her of course.
<< <i>
<< <i>Yes, I had a dipped uncirculated 1872 indian cent that was clearly pink. The dealer, at the Long Beach show, proceeded to take oil from the outside of his nose and rub it in to the coin. I could not believe she would do this right in front of me. She then said she was not interested in the coin.
Tom >>
You should have reached into your nose, grabbed a woog and rubbed it on one of her display cases. In front of her of course. >>
I would have asked to see the most expensive proof in her display case and returned the favor.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
<< <i>is that a die gouge on hootchiegirl's heading pic? or is this old news? >>
That is the 1917 ty1 picture of Hootchiegirl