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MS70? or PCGS MS69 Buffalo

ProofquarterProofquarter Posts: 275 ✭✭
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Which one do you think was the better buy and why?
MS 70

MS69

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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Neither because I'll sell you a PCGS MS69 for $745.

    The off label holder is worth less than the same in original mint packaging...IMHO!
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Definately the MS70. It is the same coin and it cost less. Of course if you tried to cross it at PCGS it would probably come back as MS69.

    In the end who cares, gold is gold, if it cots less then it is a better deal.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    A lot of people here don't like it but the FS designation is valuable, whether it is meaningful or not. It will continue to command a premium. The MS70 from ABC grading company is essentially ungraded and now you don't even have the mint packaging. I wouldn't pay much more than melt for it.--Jerry
  • CoinhogCoinhog Posts: 1,336
    neither. you can buy a PCGS MS69 First Strike from apmex right now for $671.
    Luck happens when preparation meets opportunity.
  • ProofquarterProofquarter Posts: 275 ✭✭


    << <i>neither. you can buy a PCGS MS69 First Strike from apmex right now for $671. >>



    Good answer.image
  • ABC123ABC123 Posts: 2,627
    Go for the MS70 Gold !!! Buy the Best--No upgrade Needed !
  • stimmystimmy Posts: 171
    MS-69 or MS-70? Can anybody explain the differents? not! Your paying for plastic

    And "First Strike" image
  • orieorie Posts: 998 ✭
    Funny this thread came up. Ten minutes ago on ebay I went to my MS70's search, then advanced search, exclude these words and put in gold. Buffaloes are now most of the PCGS MS70 market.
    Cool set...poor pics
  • AlixTCatAlixTCat Posts: 1,276
    you have to love the way those MS70 slabs stack! No other slab stacks! Oh, wait...
    Never mind.

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  • AceKAceK Posts: 414


    << <i>The MS70 from ABC grading company is essentially ungraded and now you don't even have the mint packaging. I wouldn't pay much more than melt for it. >>

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  • Deb048goldDeb048gold Posts: 192
    Who cares? Remember its all bullion folks!
  • ProofquarterProofquarter Posts: 275 ✭✭


    << <i>Who cares? Remember its all bullion folks! >>




    So are the Anniversary Gold and Silver sets. image
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    oh my

    my my my my my my my my my my my my my my

  • Deb048goldDeb048gold Posts: 192
    The anniversary sets would be a nice "collectible keepsake"!!

    But buying bullion in high-priced slabs not telling the difference between a 69 vs 70
    is plain goofy. Iv'e done that and had some of the highest rated sets. I finally wised
    up to the fact that if I truly wanted to have something of real value in 10 years it
    wasn't going to be slabs of bullion. To each his own. If you find it enjoyable and don't
    care what your collection is worth down the road, then go for it!
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The anniversary sets would be a nice "collectible keepsake"!!

    But buying bullion in high-priced slabs not telling the difference between a 69 vs 70
    is plain goofy. Iv'e done that and had some of the highest rated sets. I finally wised
    up to the fact that if I truly wanted to have something of real value in 10 years it
    wasn't going to be slabs of bullion. To each his own. If you find it enjoyable and don't
    care what your collection is worth down the road, then go for it! >>



    image

    Although PCGS ONLY MS or PF70's carry a special value in the market, even for bullion.

    Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1

  • Deb048goldDeb048gold Posts: 192
    That's true! However I found that over time, initial inflated prices on even
    PCGS bullion slabs come down in value, (other than the 1995-W ASE.)
    I know that they are fun to collect, but just watch what happens when
    it's time to sell. You won't be a happy camper!!
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's true! However I found that over time, initial inflated prices on even
    PCGS bullion slabs come down in value, (other than the 1995-W ASE.)
    I know that they are fun to collect, but just watch what happens when
    it's time to sell. You won't be a happy camper!! >>



    Caveat Camper... BTW, I agree with you - but the PCGS only 70's still hold a premium - only worthwhile IMO (1995-W nonwithstanding) if you make them yourself.

    Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1

  • Deb048goldDeb048gold Posts: 192
    The 70's premium has been shrinking during the last three years. I know, because I had
    the fourth highest rated ASE Proofs as well as many other high rated bullion sets.

    You are exactly right, unless you build them yourself, there is absolutely no profit
    potential whatsoever.
  • tpfnartpfnar Posts: 247

    The raw one
  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buy the Proofs image They are better looking than the MS Buffalo's

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    image 69 or 70 ? I would take the 70 image
  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    Both are not worth a cent over what the mint issued them at. All this high grade modern bullion stuff is nothing but a bunch of BS in my opinion. Why pay massive premiums for an MS70 or 69 coin when a 68 or 67 looks almost identical and at a much lower cost?

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