anyone a bust half nut in here ??

seatedcollector

i have an 1813 capped half im having a little trouble ID'ing looks like an O-110 but a later die state and additional clashing

redbird48174@yahoo.com


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4600/181350cfvx6.jpg

i cant post a large enough photo here to see anything, the "UNUM" is clashed like four separate times on this one and slightly rotated as well. anyone who is into bust halves, feel free to email me for a pic


redbird48174@yahoo.com click the "TEXT" for a pic >>>>>>>> Text

JJM

I think ya might get a few takers , just a hunch, there gonna want a pic.......

AU58WALKERS

I've got the FEVER...realy, realy GOOD!

seatedcollector

tmot99

If there's no response in the next few minutes, I'll get off my butt and go to the basement to get my Overton book.

Craton

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Holy smokes that's wicked!

JRocco

A WAG without the reverse is a 103 or 104 with that nice open mouth.
A 104 is an R4

JRocco

I would like to add that I may be a bust half nut, but I am not in the BHNC...yet

Great clashes on that one also---common on a lot of 13's, but yours is awesome

seatedcollector

i looked at all the O varieties in past auctions on heritage and the only one even close was the 110 but it only looked to be clashed once or twice, this one is clashed what looks like four different times, and the back is unclashed ! probably grades three grades higher than the front.

JRocco

<< <i>i looked at all the O varieties in past auctions on heritage and the only one even close was the 110 but it only looked to be clashed once or twice, this one is clashed what looks like four different times, and the back is unclashed ! probably grades three grades higher than the front. >>



That sure does make it sound more like the 110 seatedcollector.
Can you see the E clearly by star 1 ?

tmot99

It sure looks like O-110 to me too.

mozin

<< <i>It sure looks like O-110 to me too. >>



How about a reverse picture?

seatedcollector

here is a pic of the back all of the O-110's i looked at seemed to only be die clashed once, this one is clashed at least three different times.


http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3263/181350cbgv3.jpg Text

Leiana

-Amanda

seatedcollector

i appreciate you guys posting the pics for me, i'll learn how to do it eventually,


ok here is a side by side (well, top to bottom) comparison with a PCGS O110 the PCGS coin is the lower pic, note the difference in the date placement as well as the additional clashing. Text its close to an O110 but the date is placed more to the right on my coin, and notice ther "U" above and to the left of the 8 in the date in the lower pic, mine shows an S in that spot. id like to know for sure if the comparison coin i am using is indeed an O-110 im going by PCGS i am not a bust half guy at all, im a seated dime guy

Leiana

<< <i>i appreciate you guys posting the pics for me, i'll learn how to do it eventually, >>



Here be how (teach a man to fish, ya know ) :

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There's an extra space in there.

-Amanda

rhedden

Wow, talk about a beat up obverse die! XF-45 by wear, F-15 by detail. Truly a grader's nightmare. I bet that coin didn't have much more detail on its obverse on the day that it left the mint. You just have to love the strike on some of those 1813 halves.

seatedcollector

teach a man to use a fork and he stabs himself, teach him how to cook and he'll burn the house down LOL


yeah baby !!! where's my fishin pole ??? LOL once again, the top pic is mine, the lower is a PCGS O-110 comparing the date placement id say its definately NOT an O110 compare the clashing, notice the letter U above and to the left of the 8 in the date, mine shows an S and about four different U's between the 8 and the 1

mozin

I don't know where you got that picture of what you say is O-110 date placement. It looks more like O-109. I believe your coin is indeed O-110 R1, as you initially stated. I would grade it about VF20. Clashing is not generally a good diagnostic to determine the Overton variety.

coinlieutenant

Clashing is not a good way to determine Overton variety. Clashes exist at various stages of the dies...and if a die was clashed four discernable times, then it was also clashed 3 times, 2 times etc...the clash is not usually right on top of the other...so it will always change its frame of reference.

J

seatedcollector

the pic of the ANACS 1813 O-110 is what threw me off, it was mis-attributed. i looked for and found an NGC O-110 and it looks like a perfect match. thanks for all the help guys and girls,

OKbustchaser

I would agree with Mozin (hey, it happens every once in a while!) that yours is a 110 and that the comparison pic you are using is 109. (same reverse die)

On that note, NEVER trust the attribution of CBH's as supplied by the TGPs. My experience with their attributions is that the best of them (ANACS) only has about a 90% accuracy rate. While 90% would be great with something as subjective as grading, on an objective item like Overton numbers (it either is or it isn't) it is a horrible rate for a professional organization.

1794half1839

Great clashing.