Just how many cards are printed?
jayeaton
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I think we all can agree that the PSA population report is a wonderful thing for many reasons.
I was curious, is there any way to figure out the print numbers for cards prior to the insert era. Meaning just how many cards did Topps produce for each guy in each year? With current packs insert odds are stated and one can figure out generally just how many of each card has been made. But what about older cards? Has Topps ever released this info?
We know which cards are short printed or double printed but how many 1979 Reggie Jackson's once existed? 57 Ted Williams, etc.
In the PSA pop report, most 50's Topps cards have between a 100-300 pop with stars being around 1,000-2,000. This might mean, as a guess that w 5,000+ still exist. How many were originally printed.
Looking at modern cards it sure seems to me that some years had an extremely larger print run (read-1987 Topps, compared to early 80s Topps). For some reason I always think 63 Topps has a lower print run. Just me.
Any ever read any information on this or have any idea where to get it? Would Topps ever release/have this?
Just curious.
I was curious, is there any way to figure out the print numbers for cards prior to the insert era. Meaning just how many cards did Topps produce for each guy in each year? With current packs insert odds are stated and one can figure out generally just how many of each card has been made. But what about older cards? Has Topps ever released this info?
We know which cards are short printed or double printed but how many 1979 Reggie Jackson's once existed? 57 Ted Williams, etc.
In the PSA pop report, most 50's Topps cards have between a 100-300 pop with stars being around 1,000-2,000. This might mean, as a guess that w 5,000+ still exist. How many were originally printed.
Looking at modern cards it sure seems to me that some years had an extremely larger print run (read-1987 Topps, compared to early 80s Topps). For some reason I always think 63 Topps has a lower print run. Just me.
Any ever read any information on this or have any idea where to get it? Would Topps ever release/have this?
Just curious.
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First off welcome!
On the print run...I really don't know and Topps would never divulge that. But, I promise, it's plenty!
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I wonder if there's copies of that book still around.
375,000 1975s? I would have thought much less. Again, I would have to think Topps has a handle on how many were printed.
You are right. I way underestimated the number still around because of the condition factor. On Ebay there are hundreds of creased cards going off everyday.
Thanks so much for the help. This is really interesting to me!!!!
Jason
Think of it. Even back in 1998, when the McGwire craze was in full swing, his 1985 Rookies were fetching $100+ each. Print off 100 sheets worth of McGwire rookies, dump them gradualy into various store fronts for $79.99 each, and BAM. Instant $1,055,868.
Who knows? Maybe Mr Mint is getting played when he locates a "find."
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
<< <i>The fact that Topps keeps it's print runs a secret bothers me. What's to keep them from printing off a bunch of ultra valuable vintage cards and selling them on the secondary market through some bogus store-front? >>
I have discussed this very senerio with others before. Who is to say that others besides Topps are not doing this? The printing power from cardboard to ink is certainly there. If the US government needs to constantly change and upgrade the way it prints money to stay ahead of counterfiets you can bet that SOMEBODY could reproduce vintage cards that could be flawless ....
I choose to not worry about it.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
<< <i>I have discussed this very senerio with others before. Who is to say that others besides Topps are not doing this? The printing power from cardboard to ink is certainly there. If the US government needs to constantly change and upgrade the way it prints money to stay ahead of counterfiets you can bet that SOMEBODY could reproduce vintage cards that could be flawless .... >>
Yeah, others could do it, and they've been trying. It's easier to talk about Topps doing it because they have all the equipment, and they were the one's who originally printed the cards in the first place.
Look what happend with those STAR basketball cards. They were scortching hot in the 80s and early 90s, but now, since they were counterfieted with near perfection, PSA, BGS, and SGC won't touch them. Only GAI grades/authenticates these cards since they have the sole "expert" on these cards (which sound weird to me).
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
<< <i>I hear that Donruss is still printing 1988 cards!!
LOL!
they gave the brass cases of this stuff and they flooded the market.
<< <i> read the book "card sharks". upper deck did a special run of 89 baseball and 90 french hockey to appease their executives at the expense of a naive public. >>
Do you mean to say that they let the presses run on these several years later?
1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"