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Is there standard terminology for "sidedness" in coins?

RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
When describing the eagle on the reverse of a coronet gold coin, is it standard nomenclature to refer to the eagle's left wing as the one on your right side as you are looking at the coin, and vice versa? If not, should it be? When I see coins described, there is often some fumbling over explaining this.

(In studying human anatomy, there are standard definitions and assumptions that preclude the necessity to waste time/words describing such.)


Example:

RIGHT WING imageLEFT WING

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  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    Yeah, you are correct. The "right" wing is our left.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wing on the viewer's right = eagle's left wing

    this way there is no confusion for someone who is unfamiliar with some standard nomencalture.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the eagle were an X-ray image of a person, we would call it the way I suggested in the OP.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    I customarily use compass directions to refer to location on a coin face. If I write "the wing to the East," or "the east wing," for example, I'm clearly referring to the right side of the coin itself as opposed to the right side of the eagle.
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I always thought it was "Left is right, and right is wrong." Wait a minute, that was for ears.image
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe the correct terms are 'dexter' and 'sinister'.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I agree with the view in the OP.

    And if that is the way the docs do it, it is good enough for me. image
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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    -- "And if that is the way the docs do it, it is good enough for me." --

    But TDN's use of Latin terms is quite erudite.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    i prefer to use the terms radiologic left/radiologic right.

    can also have dextro- and levo-
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm very unconvinced.

    With this logic the right side of the nickel reverse would be referred to as the left or Monticello's left.

    When I talk about right and left I'm talking about the right or left side of the coin when it's right side up and facing the viewer.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm very unconvinced.

    With this logic the right side of the nickel reverse would be referred to as the left or Monticello's left.

    When I talk about right and left I'm talking about the right or left side of the coin when it's right side up and facing the viewer. >>



    You're obviously not a radiologist.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To further complicate the issue, there are many world coins that one can
    debate which part of the obverse or reverse is up.

    Then there are the clad coins which have an orientation. When they are
    punched out of the strip the siler color is smeared in the direction of the
    bottom die. They retain this orientation even when struck upside down.

    How come a mirror reverses right and left but not up and down? image
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,739 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm very unconvinced.

    With this logic the right side of the nickel reverse would be referred to as the left or Monticello's left.

    When I talk about right and left I'm talking about the right or left side of the coin when it's right side up and facing the viewer. >>



    You're obviously not a radiologist. >>



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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most times I see it expressed as the coin's "right (facing) wing" , which means the eagle's *left* wing.

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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭


    << <i>I'm very unconvinced.

    With this logic the right side of the nickel reverse would be referred to as the left or Monticello's left. >>





    No, it wouldn't. Unless Monticello is traditionally described in terms of right and left, and there is agreement on this nomenclature. Like that which exists for anatomical structures. Which is what the original poster is talking about. So don't be difficult image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since we're talking about a coin in both cases, not a bird or a building, I think it best to refer to the coin's left or right side from the viewer's point of view. On a Lafayette dollar, is Washington on L's right or left??

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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    How come a mirror reverses right and left but not up and down?

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,739 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm very unconvinced.

    With this logic the right side of the nickel reverse would be referred to as the left or Monticello's left. >>





    No, it wouldn't. Unless Monticello is traditionally described in terms of right and left, and there is agreement on this nomenclature. Like that which exists for anatomical structures. Which is what the original poster is talking about. So don't be difficult image >>




    OK. How about a stylized eagle on the German coins? How much does it have to look like a real eagle before right and left are reversed?
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    If you realy want to make sure there is no mistake you say viewers left or viewers right.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It does get confusing. Last night, I was reading Doug Winter's new New Orleans gold book, and in one of the entries, he writes about the weakness of the stars on the left, clearly referring to those on the viewers left. Perhaps, the standard should be from the viewer's side, but I do not suppose we will ever get a consensus from this forum.

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