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I just hate Power Sellers sometimes

I got one who won an item 9 days ago.

I filed a UPI with Ebay this evening. He responds back that I am in violation of Ebay rules by filing that. He said that since he is a Power Seller he can choose if he wants to pay for an item or not even after he wins and Ebay will not do anything. He then demanded I retract the UPI or he would report me to Ebay.

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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    Would you mind sharing who this wonderful specimen of humanity is so I can be sure to block any and all transactions with them ?
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  • athleticsfanathleticsfan Posts: 250 ✭✭✭
    The guy is flat wrong. You should forward that response to ebay.
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  • He is just one of those power sellers who think they can throw their "status" around.


  • << <i>I got one who won an item 9 days ago.

    I filed a UPI with Ebay this evening. He responds back that I am in violation of Ebay rules by filing that. He said that since he is a Power Seller he can choose if he wants to pay for an item or not even after he wins and Ebay will not do anything. He then demanded I retract the UPI or he would report me to Ebay. >>



    Let me get this straight. He says he can just bid on items and not pay if he chooses not to? What the heck is that?
    For the sake of everyone, post his ID so it doesnt happen to anyone else....
  • jersterjerster Posts: 828 ✭✭✭
    What a tool...
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He said that since he is a Power Seller he can choose if he wants to pay for an item or not even after he wins and Ebay will not do anything. He then demanded I retract the UPI or he would report me to Ebay.


    That truly defies logic.


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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    That guy needs to be reported; then jailed.

    I took my power-seller thing off about two-weeks ago;
    biznez picked up almost right away. That was not my first
    experiment and the results are always the same.

    But, when ever the eBay performance cops tell me they
    are going to take the badge away from me if I do not get
    to selling, I speed up so I can keep the thing. It has
    some use for lurking with the big-boys in the PS forum,
    but that is about it. (I wish every buyer could go in there
    and hear how some of the big sellers talk about buyers.)

    My rag-merchant relatives do more than $20k a month
    in several different stores. (All used clothing that they
    buy from the Salvation Army and GoodWill.) Their FB
    in every store is just barely above 98%, but they NEVER
    display the power-seller thingies. MANY buyers will no
    longer buy stuff from power-scammers.

    eBay does tend to be a tiny bit liberal - sometimes - in
    handing out punsihments to the PS-crowd. I do not
    have any outrageous examples, but they do let the
    98% FB slide quite often if it's for a big seller.

    eBay is out of control. eBay is the Devil.

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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A Powerseller?

    Is that like being a surgeon or something?

    Is there an association? The American Society of Powersellers?

    Do they like get Diplomas and stuff - special badges - secret handshakes?

    When I grow up...?

    I wanna be a Powerseller!

    mike
    Mike
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Cut and paste for a treat:


    powersellersunite.com


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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>I took my power-seller thing off about two-weeks ago;
    biznez picked up almost right away. That was not my first
    experiment and the results are always the same.
    >>



    Sorry, I don't believe this. You may have a problem with the whole "Powerseller" thing, but you really expect people to believe that by taking this designation off (I didn't even think you controlled this, rather I thought Ebay gives it and takes it away) more people buy stuff from you? Everyone, therefore, that shops on Ebay hates Powersellers? If this was the case, Ebay would have stopped the practice a long time ago.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    ctsox..........


    If you request, I will place one of my PS thingies up right now,
    and after you look at it, I will remove it, and you will see that
    it is missing.

    Sellers have complete control over whether or not they wish
    to display the symbol. They can take it up and down
    at will.

    I wouldn't say it, if it wasn't so.... and, I am willing to demonstrate it.

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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Storm, I have no issue with your ability to display or not display the icon (but, like I said, I didn't know it was a seller option until now). What I do find hard to believe is how taking the symbol away would be better for business. Most people that shop Ebay must still put some sort of stock in buying from a Powerseller as opposed to someone who is not (even if it's a small advantage at best). It's like saying - "I reduced my advertising, and my sales went up".
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    I doubt that everyone hates powersellers.
    They have been involved in many of the
    largest scams on eBay, but that certainly
    does not mean that the program is bad.

    But, smart-shoppers would never rely on the
    PS symbol as an absolute guarantee of a
    good transaction.

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    " It's like saying - "I reduced my advertising, and my sales went up".

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    It seems like that should be so. And, I think it used to
    be so. But, PSs have gotten a really bad name among
    some buyers in the past 18-months. It really does not have
    the value that it had in the beginning.

    New shoppers might still think it "means something," but
    most experienced buyers know that it really ONLY means
    that the person turns a bunch of merch at a certain dollar
    level. Experienced buyers also know that 98% FB is a
    pretty low standard.

    I am not opposed to the program. It just does not mean
    what it should because of the lax standards that eBay
    applies.

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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    I absolutely agree with that, especially the last part. But, I wonder how many Ebay shoppers are savvy enough to realize this. I still think, as a seller, I'd rather have the designation than not have it. But, that's just my opinion.
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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    eBay will allow a seller to drop below 98% for a few months before they drop them from the PowerSeller category. I think discountcardz spent almost a year below, dropping to an even 97%, before they were removed. biggtimesports still has the logo, and is down to 97.2%.

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  • Getting back to the main topic of the thread, is this guy nuts or is there some validity to what he is saying?
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    Getting back to the main topic of the thread, is this guy nuts or is there some validity to what he is saying?

    No validity to it at all. He's probably just trying to get wizard to respond with some type of threat or insult, in which case he WOULD be able to report him to ebay and possibly get him suspended. This happened to a large modern seller not too long ago. You have to be real careful with what you say to buyers (especially if you communicate through ebay), and this powerseller probably knows that.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Getting back to the main topic of the thread, is this guy nuts or is there some validity to what he is saying?

    No validity to it at all. He's probably just trying to get wizard to respond with some type of threat or insult, in which case he WOULD be able to report him to ebay and possibly get him suspended. This happened to a large modern seller not too long ago. You have to be real careful with what you say to buyers (especially if you communicate through ebay), and this powerseller probably knows that.


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    Yup.

    By accident, I participated in the hikack. Not sure how
    that happened. Sorry.

    Serious biznez here: Wiz needs to be told - if he does not
    know, maybe he does - you cannot argue with folks who know the
    way eBay's customer satisfaction scheme really works.

    On eBay, much of the time, if you are right, you will be determined
    to be wrong after the nitwits "get to the bottom of things."

    Reporting the guy's first communication is the only way wiz can
    win this with eBay. If wiz responds to the deadbeat-arrogant-bum,
    they ah will claim that he is being abused and wiz could very well
    get his tail caught in a crack.

    My advice: No further communication with the bad guy. Just rat him
    out to eBay, and even if they want to shaft you, there should be
    no way that they can.

    Power Sellers all have different levels of phone numbers that they
    can call if they have problems. Low end PSs get a junk call center
    number, and high guys get a good number where people actually
    know your name and what you sell.

    (I had a PS stiff me for 26-days on $3.17 last month. I mailed his
    junk to him immediately when he bought it. Sent him 2 or 3
    reminders, and still no payment. A few days ago, he pays and puts
    a message on the PayPal thing: "Got your emails. I was out of town.")

    Not good to fight directly with those guys; they are mobbed up with those
    little phone managers and they can make life miserable. Report auctions,
    cancel BINs, bid with tossable IDs, any number of bad things.

    storm





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  • I too have done that experiment before of taking my PS logo off and my sales almost instantly increased after doing it.. There are some buyers who will not buy from Power Sellers they feel Power Sellers are too big for any real service.

    Go to the Ebay messages boards and you will hear the same thing that the logo can be a sales deterant instead of a sales booster..

    Being a Power Seller is not really that hard to do all it really means is this seller pays Ebay more money than others, but that is not always true.

    How many Power Sellers have you seen spend half their item description describing what it means to be a PS.

    I have also found and heard lots of stories about Power Sellers being among the worse buyers. I have filed 5 UPIs on various Power Sellers for non-payment 3 gave me the same type story.

    Forgot to add: He now wants me to remove the dispute before he will send Payment.

    A PS can go below 98% the PS requirement is figured on all their feedback recieved not just unique feedback recieved. So a PS can have a 97.5%, but under the PS percentage they can be 98.5.
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