O'Connell and Son Ink Cards?

ajw

Does anyone know *anything* about these cards? They're known as "O'Connell and Son Ink 1984-1989" and there's a Will Clark in the set. I've only been able to track down images of two cards from the entire set, both from this Nellie Fox site. (I hope he doesn't mind...)

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I attempted to email the person who manages the site, though I'm not sure I had the right address.

So, does anyone know more about these cards or how they were distributed? Here's a link to the checklist, if anyone's interested. It's an interesting combination of HoFers and late 80s stars (Ruth, Gehrig, Paige, Benito Santiago, Will Clark, Chris Short (?), Greg Gross (?).

It seems like a very interesting set, and I'd love to know more...

I'd love to see a scan of the Will Clark card, if anyone knows of one.

Thanks,

Drew

carew4me

I do not know how they were distributed.

here are the Rod Carew's:

JESSEJAMES

The editor of SCD produced these... TS O'Connell... he will be happy to talk with you. Just call Krause and ask for him. Nice fella.

ajw

Thanks for the scans! Are they yours? If so, can I ask how you tracked them down (and what you paid)?

Carew29

The baseball card size Carew's go for a couple of bucks on ebay. The 5x7 for around $8, the 8x10 a little more.

carew4me

sounds right.


the 8x10 are very tuff to find

ajw

Jeez...there are a bunch on eBay right now. No Will Clark, but hopefully it'll show up someday soon. I thought I searched a week ago or so and didn't see a single listing. Maybe I spelled it wrong.

Anyway, thanks for the info guys. That's why I love this board...someone knows something about everything!

A few more questions: how's the quality of the cards? Are they on regular card stock? Are they licensed?

carew4me

not licensed. great card stock.

PSA will grade these

RedRomad275

I was under the impression that PSA will not grade anything that isn't licensed. That has been an issue I have been dealing with with several other issues....interesting

Red

carew4me

Someone else told me that they are licensed, so I could be wrong.

PSA graded the two normal size issues on my last batch of Carew's (15,73).


RedRomad275: I will be listing a nice CENTERED 69 rose Deckle Edge in PSA 8 on eBay soon.

Carew29

Dammit they better be since they just graded yours!!!!!!! Plus i just sent mine in!!

MorrellMan

I've had these forever - I think I bought them from an ad in SCD about 22 years ago:

I also have a '52 Mantle rookie, but that one's in my office.

ajw

Well, I finally found the Will Clark card. It only cost me a few dollars (though my snipe was set much higher). I also snagged a few Willie Mays cards from the same seller. The seller, BTW, is from Wisconsin, which makes sense, as Krause Publications is also in Wisconsin.



The seller had quite a few cards, and seems to be breaking up a set. The images on the cards can really be...um...interesting, I guess. Like this one, for example:



I can't imagine Nolan was real happy when he saw that one (assuming he ever has, of course).

One last question: do we know if PSA really does grade these? I ask out of curiosity more than anything else. I suspect it would be tough, as the dimensions seem to vary quite a bit from card to card. I also wonder if they're authorized cards, as I don't see any sort of MLBPA or other markings on the cards.

Anyway, thanks for the info on the set, guys.

Stone193

<< <i>The editor of SCD produced these... TS O'Connell... he will be happy to talk with you. Just call Krause and ask for him. Nice fella. >>


I'm thinking that TS is the actual artist.

His work is just ok - and I'm not criticizing - it's better than I could do.

mike

ajw

Ok. Now that I have my Will Clark O'Connell and Son Ink card, how do I organize it? The Beckett.com list says lumps all the cards together, labeling them as "1984-1989 O'Connell and Sons Ink." Now, I'm sure it's not from 84 or 85, and probably not 86, but how do I know the year of issue?

Anyone?

AkbarClone

I saw a Will Clark colletor's website where he cataloged the O'Connell and Son Ink card #208 as "1986".

ajw

<< <i>I saw a Will Clark colletor's website where he cataloged the O'Connell and Son Ink card #208 as "1986". >>



Really? Any chance you still have a link? I'm interested for a number of reasons...

AkbarClone

Will Clark collector link

ajw

I was just contacted by a seller who is selling off a large run of O'Connell & Son Ink cards. I may buy the remaining Giants cards, but if anyone is interested in his list, let me know.

Here's his list (sorry for the poor formatting):
No. PLAYER TEAM
1 Williams, Ted Red Sox
3 Koufax, Sandy Dodgers
4 Kaline, Al Tigers
5 Ford, Whitey Yankees
10 Yastrzemski, Carl Red Sox
14 McCovey, Willie Giants
15 Carew, Rod Angels
16 Gibson, Bob Cardinals
17 Yount, Robin Brewers
18 Carlton, Steve Phillies
20 Mays, Willie Giants
21 Jackson, Reggie Angels
22 Mathews, Eddie Braves
23 Murray, Eddie Orioles
24 Bench, Johnny Reds
26 Stargell, Willie Pirates
27 Henderson, Rickey Athletics
28 Maris, Roger Yankees
29 Strawberry, Darryl Mets
29 Strawberry, Darryl Mets
30 Rose, Pete Reds
31 Rice, Jim Red Sox
32 Munson, Thurman Yankees
33 Robinson, Brooks Orioles
34 Valenzuela, Fernando Dodgers
35 Oliva, Tony Twins
36 Aaron, Henry Braves
37 Morgan, Joe Reds
38 Hrbek, Kent Twins
39 Berra, Yogi Yankees
40 Musial, Stan Cardinals
41 Mathews, Gary Phillies
42 Doby, Larry Reds
43 Garvey, Steve Dodgers
44 Bob Horner Braves
45 Guidry, Ron Yankees
48 Reese, Pee Wee Dodgers
49 Shantz, Bobby Athletics
50 Dimaggio, Joe Yankees
51 Slaughter, Enos Cardinals
52 Carter, Gary Expos
53 Feller, Bob Indians
54 Rizzuto, Phil Yankees
55 Consepsion, Dave Reds
56 Kittle, Ron White Sox
57 Evans, Dwight Red Sox
58 Mize, Johnny Yankees
61 Lynn, Fred Angels
62 Williams, Billy Cubs
63 Winfield, Dave Yankees
64 Roberts, Robin Phillies
65 Martin, Billy Yankees
66 Snider, Duke Dodgers
67 Aparicio, Luis White Sox
68 Vernon, Mickey Senators
70 Robinson, Frank Reds
71 Madlock, Bill Pirates
72 Fingers, Rollie Brewers
73 Carew, Rod Twins
75 Brock, Lou Cardinals
79 Harrelson, Bud Mets
81 Johnson, Walter Senators
83 Grove, Lefty Red Sox
84 Whitaker, Lou Tigers
89 Bunning, Jim Phillies
90 Ruth, Babe Yankees
91 Paige, Satchel Cardinals
92 Spahn, Warren Braves
94 Wynn, Early Indians
95 Jackson, Reggie Yankees
96 Gehringer, Charlie Tigers
97 Robinson, Jackie Dodgers
98 Gehrig, Lou Yankees
99 Aaron, Hank Braves
101 Koufax, Sandy Dodgers
104 Strawberry, Darryl Mets
105 Seaver, Tom Mets
106 Klem, Bill Umpire
107 Gooden, Dwight Mets
110 Wagner, Honus Pirates
112 Bruton, Billy Braves
113 Hodges, Gil Dodgers
114 Power, Vic Athletics
116 Lopez, Al White Sox
117 Bridges, Rocky Dodgers
118 Gilliam, Junior Dodgers
119 Mathewson, Christy Giants
120 Greenberg, Hank Tigers
121 Mathews, Eddie Braves
122 Mungo, Van Lingle Dodgers
123 Simpson, Suitcase Athletics
124 Yastrzemski, Carl Red Sox
126 Dean, Dizzy Cardinals
127 Olivo, Chi Chi
128 VanderMeer, Johnny Reds
130 Hubbell, Carl Giants
131 Mays, Willie Giants
132 Stargell, Willie Pirates
133 Jethroe, Sam Braves
135 Robinson, Jackie Dodgers
136 Berra, Yogi Yankees
137 Alexander, Grover Phillies
138 Morgan, Joe Reds
139 Foster, Rube Red Sox
142 Fox, Jimmy Red Sox
143 Martin, Pepper Cardinals
144 Aaron, Henry Braves
145 Blue, Vida Athletics
146 Furillo, Carl Dodgers
148 Dyer, Eddie Cardinals
149 Stengel, Casey Yankees
151 Hodges, Gil Mets
152 Mossi, Don Tigers
153 Swoboda, Ron Mets
154 Wilhelm, Hoyt White Sox
155 Roush, Ed Reds
156 Lolich, Mickey Tigers
157 Palmer, Jim Orioles
158 Munson, Thurman Yankees
159 Zimmer, Don
160 Aaron, Henry Braves
161 Bench, Johnny Reds
162 Cepeda, Orlando Giants
164 Seaver, Tom Mets
165 Mays, Willie Giants
166 Riddle, Elmer Reds
167 Oliva, Tony Twins
168 Flick, Elmer Indians
169 Flood, Curt Cardinals
170 Yastrzemski, Carl Red Sox
171 Keller, King Kong Yankees
172 Mathewson, Christy Giants
174 Gehrig, Lou Yankees
175 McGraw, John Giants
177 Waner, Paul Pirates
178 Blass, Steve Pirates
179 Wagner, Honus Pirates
180 Barry, Jack Athletics
182 Murtaugh, Danny Pirates
183 Edwards, John Reds
186 Grote, Jerry Mets
187 Durocher, Leo Cubs
188 Fingers, Rollie Brewers
189 Parker, Wes Dodgers
190 Rudi, Joe Athletics
191 Veeck, Bill
192 Fidrych, Mark Tigers
193 Foster, George Reds
194 Wynn, Early Indians
195 Howard, Frank Senators
196 Nettle, Graig Yankees
197 Pizarro, Juan White Sox
198 Cruz, Jose Astros
199 Jackson, Joe White Sox
201 Klein, Chuck Phillies
203 Allen, Richie Phillies
204 Jackson, Bo Royals
205 Mitchell, Kevin Giants
206 Wynn, Doby, Smith Indians
209 Fielder, Cecil Tigers
210 Richardson, Bobby Yankees
212 Stengel, Casey Mets
213 Kluszewski, Ted White Sox
214 Perry, Gaylord Giants
215 VanderMeer, Johnny Reds
216 Mays, Willie Giants
217 Goslin, Goose Yankees
218 Shantz, Bobby Athletics
219 Pendleton, Terry Braves
223 Ainge, Danny Blue Jays
224 Friend, Bob Pirates
225 Hershiser, Orel Dodgers
226 Boggs, Wade Red Sox
227
228 Musial, Stan Cardinals
229 Short, Chris Phillies
230 Bench, Johnny Reds
236 Gross, Greg Phillies
238 Santiago, Benito Padres
239 Gooden, Dwight Mets
240 Strawberry, Darryl Mets
241 Campanella, Roy Dodgers
244 Ryan, Nolan Astros
none Erskine, Carl
none Haas, Mule
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AkbarClone

Can you send me a PM with his contact info? I need 12-14 cards to finish my needs for the set.
Thanks,
James