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Halladay wins 15th ... Cy Young Consideration?

Thought Roy deserved a special thread for this one. Where would my Jays be without this guy. He's a horse. I feel like this guy gets no love outside of Toronto. I know softy has mentioned his respect for this guy, but does anyone else think he deserves Cy Young consideration?

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  • He's a Top 5 pitcher in the Majors, in my opinion. I think he has a chance at it, but more than likely someone from a playoff team will take it.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    He was on his way last year to it, before the injury.

    He's been as consistent as anyone all year, but the lack of national exposure (canadian team players have always suffered this) and not going to the postseason will surely hurt his chances.

    Verlander from Detroit has to be considered a strong possibility, second behind Liriano in ERA (he's likely done for the year), second in wins, his K's hurt though.
    Johan is dealing, too, third in ERA, 1st in Ks, same number of wins as Verlander.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    I think it will be:

    1-Halladay
    2-Santana
    3-Verlander


  • << <i>I think it will be:

    1-Halladay
    2-Santana
    3-Verlander >>



    Looking at it objectively, Santana should probably win it. Subjectively, I'm cheering for Halladay.
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    I cant argue with that. No clear cut winner in either league this year. Halladay definately is one of the most underrated players in baseball.
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    << <i>I cant argue with that. No clear cut winner in either league this year. Halladay definately is one of the most underrated players in baseball. >>



    The downside of playing in toronto, so little american press.

    How many of the great players in toronto (Overbay, Wells, etc.) get any noticable coverage here?
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I cant argue with that. No clear cut winner in either league this year. Halladay definately is one of the most underrated players in baseball. >>



    The downside of playing in toronto, so little american press.

    How many of the great players in toronto (Overbay, Wells, etc.) get any noticable coverage here? >>



    Yup, that lineup is stacked and you never hear about them. Glaus, Rios, and Molina are having very good years, too...B.J. Ryan...They have a shot next year if they can add some more weapons...
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


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    << <i>I cant argue with that. No clear cut winner in either league this year. Halladay definately is one of the most underrated players in baseball. >>



    The downside of playing in toronto, so little american press.

    How many of the great players in toronto (Overbay, Wells, etc.) get any noticable coverage here? >>



    Yup, that lineup is stacked and you never hear about them. Glaus, Rios, and Molina are having very good years, too...B.J. Ryan...They have a shot next year if they can add some more weapons... >>



    A new manager wont hurt.
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    << <i>I cant argue with that. No clear cut winner in either league this year. Halladay definately is one of the most underrated players in baseball. >>



    The downside of playing in toronto, so little american press.

    How many of the great players in toronto (Overbay, Wells, etc.) get any noticable coverage here? >>



    Yup, that lineup is stacked and you never hear about them. Glaus, Rios, and Molina are having very good years, too...B.J. Ryan...They have a shot next year if they can add some more weapons... >>



    A new manager wont hurt. >>



    Agreed. The Jays brass can talk like they support Gibbons all the want. But perception is very important. How are they going to pick up any topnotch starting pitchers when the manager is perceived as a loose cannon? The players put on a brave face in front of the camera and say everything is fine, but I truly believe Gibbons has lost the players.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gibbons HAS to go. It is unfortunate that him and the ol GM were roomys once.

    Halladay is the Cy Young at this point in my book image

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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    I know Spammy's 52 alt ID's would like to give the Cy Young to Derek Jeter, but -







    Halladay is my pick, but it's close between him and Verlander. A lot could depend on how they finish, if Halladay can win 20, and if Verlander can stay healthy over the rest of the season. Of course, Santana will get votes, and if Liriano kept going, he might have been your winner.
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    << <i>I know Spammy's 52 alt ID's would like to give the Cy Young to Derek Jeter, but -
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    Why do you say stuff like this? Why even egg him on? He is nowhere in this thread. Stop it already, the more you guys cry about this clown the more you talk about him.

    And Jerry, you are no one to talk man with your endless rosy Sox propaganda thoughts. I don't know how many times you rammed the names of Lester, Hansen, and DelCarmen down our throats through the winter and early summer. What happened ??? THEY got nothing but rammed .....

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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    I'd like to see Halladay get it, simply for the fact he's been solid all year, and well on his way last year to winning before the injury.

  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    I think Johan has this thing pretty much wrapped up...


  • << <i>I think Johan has this thing pretty much wrapped up... >>



    Johan should get it. He may want to thank the Jays bullpen though. Halladay pitched seven innings last night and let in one run and then was removed. Accardo coughed up a grand salami in the 8th. And there went Halladay's 17th win. The bullpen has blown at least five leads for Halladay this year.
  • Santana should win it, provided the Twins get the wild card. Halladay should finish second. I expect Liriano, Verlander, Kenny Rogers, Barry Zito, Mariano Rivera, Ching Ming Wang and B.J Ryan will all end up in the top ten in voting...
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

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    << <i>Santana should win it, provided the Twins get the wild card. Halladay should finish second. I expect Liriano, Verlander, Kenny Rogers, Barry Zito, Mariano Rivera, Ching Ming Wang and B.J Ryan will all end up in the top ten in voting... >>



    I think Papelbon will be part of the top ten
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,649 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think Johan has this thing pretty much wrapped up... >>



    Johan should get it. He may want to thank the Jays bullpen though. Halladay pitched seven innings last night and let in one run and then was removed. Accardo coughed up a grand salami in the 8th. And there went Halladay's 17th win. The bullpen has blown at least five leads for Halladay this year. >>




    My thoughts exactly. Writer once again I say watch out for the Jays next year, I really have been staying out of baseball threads do to the great collapse of my Red Sox but this thread caught my eye.
  • That's why I left a spot out. Papelbon makes it back before the end of the season and he's top five for ROY and CY Young.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Santana wins the Cy Young for sure. He'll probably be the only guy to get to 20 wins (if he makes it). If so, it'll be unanimous. No one has been hotter than he in the second half and the Twins are right back in the thick of the wildcard race, too.


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  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭
    Dang it! Roy got hurt again today.
  • Sometimes I wonder if Halladay has a target on him on the mound. They are saying no fractures though. He was hit with a line drive on the pitching elbow.
  • Johan will win what should have been his third in a row. Fat Colon, or should I say run support, won the award last season...and that case of robbery is now on file at the FBI.
  • NOT giving Santana the Cy Young would be a horrible move . The guy has kept the Twins in the hunt, hasnt lost after the break and is something like 32-2 in the last 2 years after the break.

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  • Santana will win the Cy Young. It's not even a race anymore. And I'm a huge Halladay fan.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    Johan should also be considered for MVP. He's just meant so much to the Twins this year...
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