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Ouch, latest PCGS grades in

critocrito Posts: 1,735 ✭
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Order #20040545
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 08623197 143833 1931 Sol PERU AU50
1 2 08623198 143833 1931 Sol PERU XF40
1 3 08623199 143833 1931 Sol PERU Enviromental Damage
2 1 08623200 143834 1893-TF Sol 1393/893 PERU VF35
3 1 08623201 167960 1892-TF Sol PERU Cleaned
4 1 08623202 553798 1869-YB Sol PERU AU55
5 1 08623203 164386 1868-YB Sol PERU Cleaned


I don't care what Krause says, just try and find a nice 1931 Sol. And I had to go through several 1393/893 Soles before I found one that hadn't been tooled so am pleased with that result as well. But they royally reamed me on the last three. Maybe too many hairlines from a horse hair brush, but that's typical for the series and all three were "market acceptable" IMHO.

Oh well, not worth the slabbing fees this time around. image Ya win some, ya lose some, I guess.

Comments

  • a039a039 Posts: 1,546 ✭
    Sorry to hear that, better luck next time!
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    OUCH!!! PM SENT!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • critocrito Posts: 1,735 ✭
    Won't be soles again. Am a little burned out on the series ATM.

    Next submission I'm thinking of cracking out five Morgan and five Peace dollars from NGC and ANACS slabs and sending them in raw. Never tried that before. Should be interesting to see which upgrade, downgrade and stay the same. image
  • bobkingbobking Posts: 66
    Why would you want to cross NGC slabs? In my opinion, it may be not worth the slabbing fees if they stay the same (per value under $500). However, PCGS is much stricter than NGC on world coins. A PCGS MS66 1929B Great Bratain Trade Dollar is worth about $700 while a NGC coin is just worth $300~400. image
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  • bobkingbobking Posts: 66
    I have a 1893TF counterstampimage
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    Ouch is right! Sorry.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Crito, the 31 can't be that hard to find in MS, even I have one!!!!

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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • critocrito Posts: 1,735 ✭
    I used to have one in MS62 Marty, but I cracked it out for this submission. Wonder if it's the one they bagged or the AU50? image It's the only one with purple rim toning anyway, so will know soon enough. I'm sure the other two bagged for cleaning will make it into respectible slabs someday too. I just have this little policy of never sending a bagged coin back to the same TPG. NGC had previously bagged my PCGS VF35 1393/893 Sol, for example. image



  • critocrito Posts: 1,735 ✭


    << <i>Why would you want to cross NGC slabs? In my opinion, it may be not worth the slabbing fees if they stay the same (per value under $500). However, PCGS is much stricter than NGC on world coins. A PCGS MS66 1929B Great Bratain Trade Dollar is worth about $700 while a NGC coin is just worth $300~400. image >>



    Unfortunately collecting soles has always been a losing proposition. So in that regard it doesn't really matter what grades I got, the market for them is just too thinly traded. That's why a need to get back to some lightside coins. A single Morgan or Peace dollar upgrade could well pay for my entire submission, and maybe this one too. image

    Collecting is a lot more fun when it doesn't break the bank.
  • critocrito Posts: 1,735 ✭
    Coins just got here.

    First have to say that, though I cracked one of the 1931's out of a PCI MS62 holder, I always felt it was overgraded myself, and all three coins were borderline baggers for environmental damage or planchet flaws, which is why I sent three of them in the first place.

    The last three coins however are clearly all AU58-MS61 sliders, maybe even 62s on a good day. Of the last three, one was dipped prior to submission, the one they slabbed as AU55. image The two they bagged are lightly hairlined from an old cleaning but they've grown very original skins over the top. And as I also mentioned previously, the 1393/893 had already been bagged by NGC. What I neglected to mention is that I cleaned and RETONED it (slowly and pseudo-naturally, over a six month period) myself before sending it back in to PCGS. image

    So they slabbed two I know were cleaned, because I cleaned them myself, and bagged two for cleaning that were perfectly market acceptable, IMVHO. Somebody must have pissed in the graders' Wheaties that morning. image

    Will post a pic of 1393/893 in its new slab shortly. image
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