Topps Allen and Ginter

Golfcollector · August 8, 2006 11:29AM

Bought two boxes of this stuff today and looking to put together a set of the mini cards. ( I think it looks great) I did pretty well pulling a black mini Ted Williams, a Priting Plate card of an A's pitcher (sorry I don't have it in front of me right now) a bazooka back numbered to 25 and a bunch of other great things! A nice set...

Way to go Topps!

bbne1 · August 8, 2006 11:37AM

Anyone know if Target/WalMart etc will carry the Allen and Ginter cards or will distribution be limited? They look pretty sweet

Wizardsguildcards · August 8, 2006 11:53AM

Wal-mart has already sold out of them here locally.

helionaut · August 8, 2006 1:05PM

This is going to be my major project for the year. I was thinking of doing a super-master set:
base set w/SPs
mini set
black mini set
autographs
relics
Perez insert set
N43 set
postcard set
and the Grady Sizemore and Frank Thomas complete parallel sets (if you see the Bazookas, woods or plates, LMK)

The rip cards are going to be tough, and the extended mini cards (only available in the rip cards) are going to be chased heavily, along with the autos.

I think that may be a bit much to go for all at once, so I'm holding off on the minis. I've got two hobby boxes coming but they can't get here soon enough. I've been haunting the Wal-marts since last week when they first leaked out, but around here they all have terrible card sections and no one's gotten any. I've already spent over $150 on singles on ebay but I have none in hand yet. It's killing me.

Jmnesq · August 8, 2006 11:52PM

It's going to be all over retail. Be patient.

joestalin · August 9, 2006 12:19AM

Dang, all this comes out when I don't have any funds. Who is buying? I have everything! LMK

Kevin

PS Can't wait to get some of this stuff

Golfcollector · August 9, 2006 3:25AM

I am putting a mini set together. I am listing stuff on the bay starting tonight. Oh and my printing plate was Barry Zito

Wizardsguildcards · August 9, 2006 8:18AM

I opened a retail blaster today. Pulled a Carl Lewis black mini. I also got 4 SPs it was a cool rip and the look of these cards is great.

envoy98 · August 9, 2006 8:52AM

A guy on SCF just busted a case and is moving most of it if someone wants to hit him up.

Allen & Ginter Case Break

kuhlmann · August 9, 2006 9:33AM

This stuff is moving like heritage on ebay. looks like a great product! gonna get myself 2 boxes friday.

joestalin · August 9, 2006 9:52AM

I sold my left nut and got three boxes. Im sure glad I did. I nailed a Pujols rip it card numbered to 99. Its on the bay right now for the
high end buyers. Im only 20 cards or so from a set. The mini set will be very hard to do as will the black mini. Coallation was very good
in my three boxes. If anyone wants to trade lets get it on. My GU were:

Kuo
Pujols
Utley
Dye
Schilling
Prior
Willis

Im going to tell you all this once. This stuff is going to HOT HOT HOT. If you think you might want to buy some BUY IT NOW, before you
local card guy can jack this stuff up!

Kevin

pandrews · August 9, 2006 11:04AM

if anybody has any of the Duke Kahanamoku cards they want to get rid of, let me know..

Golfcollector · August 9, 2006 12:01PM

Just listed a Hulkster Auto and picked up 142 minis (including many sp's ) from the local shop for a smooth $100 bucks. Thought is was a good deal.. Just base minis no black or A& G backs.

TNP777 · August 9, 2006 11:49PM

Be patient on this stuff. I pulled the trigger on a master set for $250 because of the hype. I now see master sets as low as $169, including the Perez 30-card set. The short prints are apparently very easy to pull (I've seen reports of 2:3). The real challenge will be the black mini set, the /25 Bazooka minis (I picked up Nomar for just over $3 - nice!), and the no-number minis. The autos seem to be doing pretty well right now - some Mike Tysons are up and going quite high, ARods are up there, Hulk Hogan, Wendy Guey (spelling bee champ), Kobayashi and many others are strong. I'm not a big fan of the tropical borders on either the autos or the game-used - not sure why Topps chose that motif. Is there a tropical theme in the original A&G?

Geordie

mikeschmidt · August 9, 2006 11:54PM

Is there any way to tell what is inside one of the Rip-It cards?

TNP777 · August 9, 2006 11:59PM

<< <i>Is there any way to tell what is inside one of the Rip-It cards? >>

not that I've seen. Looks like every time a /99 has been ripped, it has yielded one of the high number minis (351-375) that are only available in the rip cards. I'd think the lower the number on the rip, the better card you'll end up getting. The buybacks that are only available in the rip cards all seem to be birds, at least that's what has been pulled so far.

Geordie

Munson15 · August 10, 2006 12:18AM

I love this stuff better than Heritage!!! Is there an SP list yet? Sharp cards, love the backs, and I actually like that the GU/AUTO stuff is in mini with the border card. Looks fantastic!!! Can they make this an annual set?!?!?!?!?!?! I hope so.

Wizardsguildcards · August 10, 2006 12:37AM

Remember with Heritage some boxes had a very high ratio of SPs while some were almost non existant. I have opened 3 retail blasters and the first one had 4 SPs the second had one and the third every pack had one. Got my girl Danica in one.

Nice Best offer price on that Pujols, Kevin.

OSClabs · August 10, 2006 1:33AM

Where do you get this stuff? Wal-Mart, Target, card shops?

Thank you for the information,

Danny

Wizardsguildcards · August 10, 2006 1:50AM

One of the local Wal-Marts have the blasters. The other 3 Superstores do not neither does the Target here.

joestalin · August 10, 2006 4:10AM

I bought three boxes and pulled the Pujols rip card and got a nice amount of money for it. I still have all the mini, which Im about to deal
to a member here. I have the black mini's, no #, and A&G backs left plus 7 jersey cards. If anyone is interested send me a PM.

The rip cards are really nice and I tried like heck to figure out what was inside, but no such luck. I could tell that the edges on the card
inside were perfect, so I assumed it wasn't an original card. I have seen NO red ink autos, so I assume that the parallel cards dominate
the inside cards. I also have seen that most of the original cards are not of baseball players but of the birds OUCH.

None the less this is a great product, but I think Im going to get my base set and get out. I have plenty to trade with some short prints
LMK

Thanks
Kevin

TNP777 · August 10, 2006 5:01AM

<< <i>I have seen NO red ink autos..... >>

Kevin - the red ink autos exist - here's one

Geordie

kuhlmann · August 10, 2006 6:29AM

Just opened my 3rd pack and got mike mussina 1/1 printing plate of the mini card. will post later.

anyone know what that might be worth? and is there a checklist or sp list? thanks in advance!

TNP777 · August 10, 2006 6:51AM

Seems like printing plates are so common anymore that they don't command much of a premium - the exceptions are for the superstars, but even they don't seem to go for much.

Geordie

kuhlmann · August 10, 2006 7:58AM

cant believe my scanner just broke. i cant put anything up on ebay. im so ticked.

i got a jerry bailey auto and put that up without a pic.. also got that 1/1 plate. and a bunch of nice cards.

clemente black mini bonds black mini and some others.

LWMM · August 10, 2006 1:47PM

Whoever is going after a set, try to get the no number cards fast---someone on the beckett boards looked at the odds and found that only about 50 of each card had been printed.

Also, if anyone pulls any Gomes autos or jerseys, please email me (in sig). Trying to get as many of these as possible.

joestalin · August 10, 2006 1:58PM

yes the mini parallel sets are going to be hard to put together. I pulled the wiener eating guy in the no number variation and didn't
even know it. The short prints carry over to all the mini cards, with the black short printed cards being the hardest to pull. Master
set builders will have their hands full with this one. Boxes are on the up too price wise. Get in now if you can. Most case busters are
reporting getting their money back!!

The sp list is on beckett. Mostly centered around the number 5 for some reason.

I saw that Wright red auto but so far that is it!!!

Kevin

joestalin · August 10, 2006 2:10PM

5 Ken Griffey Jr. Cincinnati Reds
15 Austin Kearns Cincinnati Reds
25 Jason Giambi New York Yankees
35 Travis Hafner Cleveland Indians
45 Danny Haren Oakland Athletics
50 Alex Rodriguez New York Yankees
51 Ervin Santana Angels
52 Bartolo Colon Angels
53 John Smoltz Atlanta Braves
54 David Ortiz Boston Red Sox
55 Hideki Matsui New York Yankees
56 Jermaine Dye Chicago White Sox
57 Victor Martinez Cleveland Indians
58 Willy Taveras Houston Astros
59 Brady Clark Milwaukee Brewers
65 Jon Lieber Philadelphia Phillies
85 Mike Matheny San Francisco Giants
105 Andy Pettitte Houston Astros
115 Greg Maddux Chicago Cubs
125 Mariano Rivera New York Yankees
135 David Eckstein St. Louis Cardinals
145 Jorge Cantu Tampa Bay Devil Rays
150 Johnny Damon New York Yankees
151 Ryan Langerhans Atlanta Braves
152 Kris Benson Baltimore Orioles
153 Curt Schilling Boston Red Sox
154 Manny Ramirez Boston Red Sox
155 Robinson Cano New York Yankees
156 Derrek Lee Chicago Cubs
157 A.J. Pierzynski Chicago White Sox
158 Adam Dunn Cincinnati Reds
159 Cliff Lee Cleveland Indians
165 Derek Lowe Los Angeles Dodgers
175 Miguel Cabrera Florida Marlins
185 Tom Glavine New York Mets
205 Brett Myers Philadelphia Phillies
215 Michael Young Texas Rangers
235 Shawn Chacon New York Yankees
245 Matt Holliday Colorado Rockies
251 Josh Barfield San Diego Padres
255 Matt Cain San Francisco Giants
256 Josh Willingham Florida Marlins
265 Brian Bannister New York Mets
285 Yogi Berra New York Yankees
295 Jim Leyland Detroit Tigers
305 Danica Patrick Indy Car Driver
315 Jerry Bailey Jockey
325 John Lackey Angels
335 Queen Victoria Queen of England
345 John Rockefeller Businessman

pandrews · August 10, 2006 2:18PM

so these are hobby and retail?..

joestalin · August 10, 2006 4:07PM

yes, but hobby offers some exclusives..rip cards and numbered mini's

Kevin

Jmnesq · August 10, 2006 10:44PM

<< <i>

<< <i>I have seen NO red ink autos..... >>

Kevin - the red ink autos exist - here's one

Geordie >>

Look at the picture in that auction . . . do you see a difference whatsoever between the Mickey Mantle jersey, who, obviously retired in the 60s, and the Arod Jersey?

Wizardsguildcards · August 10, 2006 10:50PM

The stiching and fabric are different in the 2.

five7teen · August 11, 2006 1:41AM

I bought a couple of boxes of this and I think it's a great issue. I'd certainly be up for some trading if others on the board are working on the various sets. I'm just working through what I have, but am hoping to do some trading...

Munson15 · August 11, 2006 5:28AM

Anyone building the set???? I think I want to, will there be an Official thread like the Heritage thread?

How many boxes do you think will be needed to get the base......

envoy98 · August 11, 2006 10:18AM

Well here is what I managed from a box, pretty dang good from the look of things.

black minis: 2
Ozzie Guillen
BJ Ryan

Bazooka Minis: 1
Grady Sizemore #15/25

SP's: 13
Danica Patrick
Pierzynski
Holliday
Brady Clark
Leyland
Manny
Lowe
Cliff Lee
Ortiz
Colon
Cain
Myers

RC's: 3 worth mentioning
Kenji Johjima (Mini and regular)
Hong-Chih Kuo
Hanley Ramirez

Inserts: 2
Joe Randa 1/1 Printing Plate
Brandon McCarthy Jsy

Minis:
Johjima
Mike Tyson
Glavine
Molina
Jim Thorpe
Jeff Francis
Markakis
Pesky
Brooks Robinson
Posada
Glaus
John M Ward
Chase Utley
David Ortiz
JJ Hardy
Brad Hawpe
--The rest of these all have an Allen & Ginter back, the others were plain (not sure if that matters)
Brian McCann
Ian Kinsler
Dontrelle Willis
Brad Wilkerson
Willie Randolph

Perez-Steele:
David Wright
Soriano
Konerko
Teixeira
Bonds
Johan Santana
Ichiro
Bay
Shawn Green
Cabrera
Peavy
Griffey Jr.
Huff

Postcard: Cal Ripken Jr w/ ripken jr stamp.

So how did I do?

gosteelers · August 17, 2006 11:08PM

Anyone having any luck finding these in retail outlets?

ArchStanton · August 17, 2006 11:33PM

I have been finding them at different Target stores.

Has anyone (Kevin) done the math to figure out the production numbers?

Munson15 · August 17, 2006 11:47PM

Super Target has the blaster boxes!!!! bought 3 this week, one left and it is payday!!!!!!!!!!

RemynSkyler · August 20, 2006 6:17AM

Hello there,

Can anyone help? I just bought my first cards from this set. It was a blaster box from Target. I pulled an Andy Pettitte jersey and mini Black Border #181 Larry Bigbie. I also got this card that says it is "Rip Card". It says I can keep it intact or rip it. What should I do and are these hard to pull? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Mark

kmnorton · August 31, 2006 5:23PM

I told myself I wasn't going to buy any more retail boxes and was even debating with myself as I was heading to the local card shop, but
I did and got a Bonds 18/25 Rip card, a Chien-Ming Wang jersey, a Cano signature and 4 black minis. I kind of want to shake the shop owner's hand for the box he sold me.

I have a post over on the trade board for the other GU's and Signatures, but I may send them to the Bay soon.

I've said it in my intro post (once again, on the Trade board), but the above is gravy because I think the set, especially the minis, are really beautiful cards. Even my wife said "wow, those really are attractive cards". Now that's saying something.

kmn

Topps Allen and Ginter

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