NGC population data missing coins?

coinpictures

Just fired off the following post over on the NGC board:


Why don't PL coins ever show up in the population data for copper coins (both U.S. and world coins)?

There are MSPL categories for noncopper pieces, but not copper; only BN vs RB vs RD.

For example, I have a 1770 Great Britain 1/2d, in an NGC holder, graded MS64 BN PL. When I look up the certification, the coin is legitimate, but when I click on the link for the NGC population information, I get an error message stating that there is no population data for this coin.

So does this mean that PL copper coins do not show up in the online population data at all, or are they just lumped in with other MS64 BN coins?

Under "Strike" for this coin, it is categorized as "BNP". Should there not be a line entry in the population data for this date for "BNP" in addition to RD RB and BN?

I really would like to get an idea as to how common or rare PL examples are for that whole series, yet apparently I cannot get ANY data about PL copper pieces (and this goes for both U.S. and world coins).

Can this be fixed?

Thanks,

-Dan

worldcoinguy

Agreed. None of my talers are represented in the population data.

Silvereagle82

Why have a population report without listing all the coins you've graded. PCGS has a biger problem ... it has no world pop report fee based or otherwise.

It seems to me this would be so easy to maintain a current and complet pop report, after all it is simply a clerical function. Obviously they have all the serial numbers of all the coins listing grade and type so from that information you would think it would be easy.

7Jaguars

Well, I am of the opinion that the two main grading services have, as they said in previous times, gotten too big for their britches. Simply, we do not get all that much for what is paid them. The census may lag actual coins submitted, but then again some probably never do get listed. Let's not go there about the MS and Proof numbers generated and the crazy impact on prices. Ditto turnaround times! It does seem that those of us submitting through regular channels and paying those prices might get a reliable census report.

And not to be totally negative, they do provide some degree of certification giving increased buyer confidence in legitimacy status of many counterfeited and fake coins. And I still buy slabbed coins, as do many others, just not getting carried away with the grade number.

coinpictures

I got a response from NGC. They say that they are working on eliminating omissions to registry/population data, but U.S. coins take priority.

They did give me the information I was looking for though: For the 1/2d series, NGC has certified a total of 3 PL coins: a 1771 in MS63BN PL, a 1773 in MS63BN PL, and my coin, 1770 MS64BN PL.

Does that make mine a pop top?