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Does this 4 Reales look ok?

I'd like to get opinions on this Charles and Johanna 4 Reales. Text Does it look authentic and what do you think it's worth? Thanks

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  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭
    Brett,

    What I can see from that photo looks o.k., but it is not large enough for me to make a useful comment.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For these, it helps to have the coin in hand. I am not sure what it would sell for assuming it is authentic.

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  • BSBS Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for taking a look you guys. I think I'll pass on it.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not crazy about the all-white, overdipped look to it. However, the sharp strike is so fantastic it almost looks fake.

    (Mind you, I'm not suggesting it is- I see no obvious red flags but there's a tiny hint of that "looks too good to be true" factor, if you know what I mean.)

    If it is real, then it is worth having for that crisp, well-centered strike.

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm with LordMarcovan on this one - I see no obvious red flags as well, but I have only handled a couple of these before and don't have as much experience yet.
  • Silvereagle82Silvereagle82 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭
    Guys,
    I far from being an expert on this subject, but doesn't the "the all-white, overdipped look" described by the LordMarcovan lend itself to be salt-water damage. It looks like some of the sea salvaged coins to me.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I suppose a sea-salvaged coin that had been electrolytically cleaned would have that all-white look. I suppose I am just used to seeing these in a darker grey. (Seeing pictures of them, that is- I have never had one in hand).

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  • GDJMSPGDJMSP Posts: 799
    It appears to be quite genuine to me. It's a late series 4 reale, MG assayers marks and struck about 1542. As for the color it has likely been dipped. Re: value - approx $500 - $600.

    Here is a genuine example, same date/same assayer -

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wanna dig one of those when I go out detecting.

    Hey, it could happen! image

    (It did happen, to a fella in Louisiana or somewhere along the Gulf Coast, a few years ago. He found a C & J four-reales piece.)

    PS- I just saw a movie (in Spanish, subtitled) on the Sundance or IFC channel, about them. What was it called? Hm. "Juana La Loca", or something like that.

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  • BSBS Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It appears to be quite genuine to me. It's a late series 4 reale, MG assayers marks and struck about 1542. As for the color it has likely been dipped. Re: value - approx $500 - $600. Thanks for the help. The dealer wants $875 for the coin, I thought it seemed high.

    Thanks for the help everyone.image
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