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What Cal Ripken card should be used for the HOF rookies set?

shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭✭
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There is bound to be more discussion about this as January draws closer (HOF'ers announced), but I figured I'd throw it out there now. Basically it's going to be between Cal's '82 Topps and '82 Topps Traded cards. I am STRONGLY in favor of using Ripken's '82 Topps regular season issue, as opposed to the Traded Set issue. My reasoning is simple: The '82 Topps regular season issue is Cal's true rookie, and more valuable than the Fleer and Donruss versions, while the '82 Topps Traded, though more expensive and sought after overall, is NOT a rookie card. How can it be called a rooke card when it's Cal's second Topps card??? Anyway, sorry for the rant. Just wanted to see what the vibe is on this.
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Shag:

    Why can't the functionality be added so that it is either Topps, Donruss, Fleer or Topps Traded...?
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  • ToppsCo1lectorToppsCo1lector Posts: 2,633
    I'd go Topps. But hey, look at my screen name. I'm going to get them all for a rookie set of his. Not looking for a high rank registry, but just something to do.
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  • fsjeterfsjeter Posts: 1,390


    << <i>There is bound to be more discussion about this as January draws closer (HOF'ers announced), but I figured I'd throw it out there now. Basically it's going to be between Cal's '82 Topps and '82 Topps Traded cards. I am STRONGLY in favor of using Ripken's '82 Topps regular season issue, as opposed to the Traded Set issue. My reasoning is simple: The '82 Topps regular season issue is Cal's true rookie, and more valuable than the Fleer and Donruss versions, while the '82 Topps Traded, though more expensive and sought after overall, is NOT a rookie card. How can it be called a rooke card when it's Cal's second Topps card??? Anyway, sorry for the rant. Just wanted to see what the vibe is on this. >>



    The same question came up when I did the 3,000 hit club set a couple of months ago. I submitted the set with his regular Topps RC and PSA changed it to his Traded RC when the set went live. I don't know if they do that with all the sets but it seems that it doesn't matter because they have the last word on which cards ae included. image

    Scott

    Edited to add: My first list had the traded (which I prefer) but other collectors interested in building the set wanted the regular issue. I relented and submitted the set request with the regular RC.
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  • bighurt2000bighurt2000 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    I think the Topps, Donruss, and Fleer should all be a load but not the Topps Traded to me
    the Topps Traded is not a rookie card.
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  • ralstonpurinaralstonpurina Posts: 222 ✭
    I've always thought the 82 donruss is the nicest looking of the regular, non updated issues. The 82 topps traded is my favorite though
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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've always thought the 82 donruss is the nicest looking of the regular, non updated issues. The 82 topps traded is my favorite though >>

    I feel exactly the same way.
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  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    I think that they should be the first issused card. So here it should be the regular 1982 card, even though he shares it with some player to be named later. The Molitor rookie is the 1978, not the first card he appears alone on.
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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    Hasn't it always been the "best" or most valuable true rookie card, or the traded card if there were no regular issues?


    That makes it the 82 topps regular issue, not the traded card.

    I like the traded better, but you have to try to be consistent.
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  • PSARichPSARich Posts: 534 ✭✭✭
    Since Cal wasn't traded, the Topps Traded card is misleading and invalid. A joke.
  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    82 non trade.
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  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    The 1982 Fleer is the toughest one to find in Gem Mint condition from my experience. I believe the Population Report backs this up as well. But the 1982 Topps should be the card in the RC Registry for a number of reasons.
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Since Cal wasn't traded, the Topps Traded card is misleading and invalid. A joke. >>



    Come now, PSARich, Topps Traded sets, since their inception as a separate entity in 1981, have always featured rookies and September call-ups. It was never just to have traded players, but for the 1974 and 1976 issues which were issued along with the regular set.

    ~ms
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The 1982 Fleer is the toughest one to find in Gem Mint condition from my experience. I believe the Population Report backs this up as well. But the 1982 Topps should be the card in the RC Registry for a number of reasons. >>



    That is true, 1982 Fleer is even tougher in Gem Mint than the Topps Traded. I think it's partly because the picture is horrible and fuzzy, even when it looks 'right'. It's just a flat out ugly rookie card, IMHO
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Should be the regular issue topps card, not the traded.

  • BBCIBBCI Posts: 46
    I have to agree with the prevailing opinion thus far - it should be the regular Topps issue and not the Traded version.

    Don
  • ColleSystemColleSystem Posts: 512 ✭✭
    A "Traded Series" Ripken should only be counted if it was from the 1981 Traded set. The 1982 Traded card IMO is not a true rookie.

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭✭
    It's nice to know we're mostly in agreement on this.



    << <i>The same question came up when I did the 3,000 hit club set a couple of months ago. I submitted the set with his regular Topps RC and PSA changed it to his Traded RC when the set went live. I don't know if they do that with all the sets but it seems that it doesn't matter because they have the last word on which cards are included. >>



    If PSA saw this thread, maybe they'd re-think this. Obviously most collectors do not agree with their decision.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • PSARichPSARich Posts: 534 ✭✭✭
    But MikeSchmidt, Cal was an August call-up, August 10, 1981 to be exact. Not a September call-up. Anyway I was just doing a play on words...or word in this case...."traded".PSARich
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