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joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
Last week I was worried to jinx it but now Im sure that this guy is in the freaking zone. He WILL break the record, the Phils will win the wild
card, and WILL win the pennant and then the WS. Then the Eagles will go 2-14...oh wait forget that last part.

Another Yankee record goes bye bye...Williams should of won the MVP that year anyways!

JS

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He got a bogus hit today. No stoppin' him now!!!
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>He got a bogus hit today. No stoppin' him now!!! >>



    Just like Joey D got several bogus hits in his streak, good to see some things never change!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very true, Ax, but Utley got a clean hit on top of the questionable hit in the 8th so I don't think you can say the streak is bogus now. It's such a large jump from the 30s to a 40-game hitting streak--I just don't see him even reaching Molitor's 39. Makes you appreciate just how difficult a hitting streak is.


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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    No I wasn't questioning his hit streak, I was calling out D's 'streak' in which he got several errors called hits.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Consecutive hit streaks are sheer luck.

    Of course you have to be a great hitter
    to constantly put the ball in play, but after that it's all just a big crap shoot.

    Never could figure out why fans worshiped Cal Ripken either. He was lucky enough to not to get injured.

    Big frigin' deal.
    Other than that, he was a mediocre player at best,
    and at worst hurt his team by continuing to play while washed-up for year after year after year ... image



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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ripken put fans into the park for the Orioles, that's what mattered. People genuinely liked the guy and wanted to see him play.


  • << <i>Just like Joey D got several bogus hits in his streak, good to see some things never change! >>




    Must be cool to be old enough to remember, game by game, Joe D's hit streak and his "bogus hits". What an idiotic statement. Dude was also playing in a park that was 457 to LC, one of the toughest parks in history on righties. The streak got snapped, then he hit in 20 or so more games....


    If Arod hit in 5 straight games you'd be here celebrating like it was the greatest achievement in the world.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jb, don't waste your breath. Stalin came right out and called a Wild Card win for the Phils, a WS win for the Phils and yet the jackals who have Yankee rabies are foaming at the mouth only over the Joe D streak.

    Hey Stalin, I don't know which of those statements is crazier then the other imageimage

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No way Utley breaks that record. Who cares if the hit was a sharp single or not? A hit is a hit (and it counts)
  • jad22jad22 Posts: 535 ✭✭
    His streak and the mvp for that year are both garbage.
  • no way he will even get to 50

    the pressure will be ten times what it is now if he makes it to 40.

    I'll say he doesn't make it past this weekend.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Long, LONG way to go yet for 56. Got a reasonable shot though at the NL record of 44. If he breaks that, only then I'll start thinking about 56.


  • << <i>Never could figure out why fans worshiped Cal Ripken either. He was lucky enough to not to get injured.

    Big frigin' deal.
    Other than that, he was a mediocre player at best,
    and at worst hurt his team by continuing to play while washed-up for year after year after year ... image >>



    Yeah, I guess the Rookie of the Year award, 2 MVPs, leading his team to the championship in '83, and setting records for feilding at shortstop does make him look medicore without the streak.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Odds are that Utley's streak will end within the next game or two. There have been several 30+ game hitting streaks over the last 10 years or so, but only Rose has reached even 40 games since Joe D set the mark.


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No sweat tonight...Utley got a hit his first time up!


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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    I was really hoping that no one would have brought this up .... I have no idea what Utley is doing. I think he is just having a nice little stretch of games, nothing more.

    Nothing to see hear. Move along.

    As far as 1941 - Williams had the better season.

    As far as Ripken - I like him alot, but his streak should not have lasted that long. He should have sat for a few games ... maybe games the Orioles would have won, maybe a few more wins would have led to a wildcard/AL East title, that may have led to something else. With Baltimore being local, many sports writers were wondering why the hell he was playing at times. He was friggin awful for stretches that sometimes reached 20 friggin games.

    But he's white, and has big steel blue eyes ... add that to him being born a few miles away, and you would have had several dead managers if he was benched.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1420,

    Cal Ripken is a first ballot HOFer and resurrected the game of baseball after the 1994 strike. His race has nothing to do with the streak either. Sorry, but your points are baseless and lame.


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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    HUH?

    When did I say that Ripken is not a first ballot HOFer?

    Baseless and lame??? I guess you are one of those "The Streak over The Team" Bawlmorons ... and there are many, many of them. Ripken, as much as he was a great player should have sat at times.

    If Ripken was a black player that was born elsewhere he would have been benched because of poor play. As he should have been. The LOCAL media was all over him and the manager at times, and that point was suggested. Ripken was the local hometown homegrown hero. It is widely known that many players wondered why he was still playing when he was running on fumes and on empty at times.

    Racism is out there, so don't put on blinders.
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  • Hey, I am in MD and I(as a lifer Yankee fan) had to see this guy get yacked about for MANY MANY years. Truth is, the majority of the time he was on the O's they plain STUNK. I admit a few times he was hurt worse than what was reported and he should've sat, but it's not like the O's ever had a guy waiting in the wings that could've produced like Cal. He's a local guy, who could easily be governor if he ran today or 30 years from now. Luckily, he doesn't want to(I don't mean that to offend anyone but hell let the man enjoy his time off). When he broke Lou's Streak, he was still a highly productive player.

    I'd rather blame Angelos as well as the scouts he employed. For the amount of "Top prospects" the O's drafted in the 90's many of them never made it out of the minors.
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    ...and in other news, the Phillies are now just 2 games out of the wild card!

    JS

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The media are always looking for stories and controversies where there are none. As ToopsCollector mentioned, Ripken was by far the best player on most of those teams during the streak. I just don't see how you can blast a guy for wanting to play every day. To suggest that Ripken was allowed to keep his streak going because he was white and had "big steel blue eyes" is simply ludicrous.


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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Yo Joe ... I know we discussed this earlier in the season, so hopefully they don't string us along and take our hearts in September. I have always liked the hitting, and it seems that the pitching is getting better.

    Still happy that Abreu is gone ...
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  • I for one wish Abreu wasn't on the Yankees. But hey, if he does well more power to him. I just never really was a fan of the guy; nor do I think he was worth such an investment.

    BTW, Congrats to Chase Utley for extending his streak!
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    grote - I added the eye comment for effect.

    Hey, Ripken was the man in that town w/o the streak - he was born up the street!!!. I am sure that Topps can attest, as he lives close to Baltimore that there was absolutely no way that Ripken was allowed to be benched.

    I remember playing golf at a course in Havre de Grace. One guy was talking about how Johnson (I think it was him) should bench him, and his buddies agreed but said if he did he would be putting his life in his hands. This was the hometown guy.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>1420,

    Cal Ripken is a first ballot HOFer and resurrected the game of baseball after the 1994 strike. His race has nothing to do with the streak either. Sorry, but your points are baseless and lame. >>



    He resurrected the game?

    I think you meant to point to the HR chase between McGwire and Sosa in 98 that truly resurrected the game. Why else do you think the suspected steroid use/abuse went unchecked by the owners and commish?

    And there were definitely games Cal should have sat...no one in their right mind can sit there and say that he was the best option every night for his streak.

    Let's not forget his daddy was the manager for several of those years, by the time he was gone, he was going to get the streak.


  • << <i>

    << <i>
    And there were definitely games Cal should have sat...no one in their right mind can sit there and say that he was the best option every night for his streak.

    Let's not forget his daddy was the manager for several of those years, by the time he was gone, he was going to get the streak. >>




    Who was a better option that the O's had?


    You seem to forget Cal Ripken Sr. was fired in the beginning of April 1988, Cal broke Gehrigs Streak in September of 1995. So yes, a mere 7 seasons....but they knew "he was going to get the streak". Ignorance at it's finest, Cal nearly didn't resign with the O's after his Pops was fired. Yes, he did help resurrect the game. You forget he broke it a year after the strike right?
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    By better option I mean that there were surely days after a late night game when he would have been better taking a day off, to be fresher for the next day, instead of pushing his way through the streak.

    I don't know, it just seemed like an awfully selfish record.

    And the streak I think was a much more regional thing than the HR chase between sosa and mac...while I am sure cal breaking the streak helped, the hr chase of 98 is what truly brought the game back.
  • I agree that the home run chase brought in new fans by the stadiumfull. But, a lot of ppl who were fans knew Cal and his chase for the record was a momentus occasion.

    Honestly Ax, I dislike the birds as much as the next guy. But the O's for a long time had Cal and that was it. I mean, they didn't really get their prospects to either prosper with them, or even develop.

    Was it selfish? Eh, I do think that if he had regularly rested his numbers would've been better imo. But even when he was slumping he continued to be a great fielder.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    I didnt mean a better option starting every day, but days off here and there surely would have had him producing more.
  • That's what I was figuring, but the O's really had a problem with player development(they are getting better though; for example getting the old Braves pitching coach was a great move).
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Randy..yeah I know how the routine works so Im always on the lookout, but I have a guy feeling on this one..It might just be the Indian
    food I had, but maybe not. we are proving this series that we can keep up with the elite, but can we make it to the big dance?

    Me thinks Chase and Ryan have their dancing shoes on! Maybe Manual will get hit by a bus tomorrow!

    Kevin
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    he's got a better chance of outrunning Bernardini in the Travers.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Must have been some pretty desperate times in Baltimore
    for fans to get excited just because some tired has-been selfishly refused to rest when he was tired.

    I mean ... could there possibly be a more boring record?
    Hits, home runs, base running, diving acrobatic catches. That's entertainment.
    Where's the drama and excitement in seeing an old man's name penciled into a lineup card?

    I got some perfect attendance certificates from when I was in grade school. Think I'll run for mayor of Baltimore.



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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Did Cole Hamels just 2 hit the Cards and strike out 12, or was my sportscenter taken over by aliens? With pitching like that, who needs
    hitting? Now if Brett could only get back on track!

    JS
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    What Cal Ripken did was amazing.

    I am a huge Gehrig fan, yet there was not a day I didnt root for Ripken to break his streak. I still have the two full covers of the Baltimore Sun from the day after he broke it framed.

    For the record, there were many days during Gehrigs streak where he should have sat out too. I dont have any numbers handy, but there were indeed several times where he started and was pinch hit for right after, just to keep the streak intact. Late in his career Lou was x-rayed and it was determined that he had 17 fractures in his hands alone. They " healed " while he continued to play.
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    << <i> was my sportscenter taken over by aliens? >>




    No Kevin, they took you over the day you signed up for this websight.
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    This is now moot. The "negative" comments on Cal Ripken boggle my mind. He and Griffey Jr were the types of ambassadors that held fan interest in the game, even prior to the McGuire - Sosa HR stuff. I strike those comments up to absolute ignorance.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    DH-

    So you're saying that Ripken was healthy every single one of those games, and that he wasn't knicked up, or tired, or plain ole disinterested in the game enough that he should have sat at least once?

  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Axhole - you said that, not me. Same would go for Lou Gerhig.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Axhole - you said that, not me. Same would go for Lou Gerhig. >>



    I was asking you?
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Axhole - what???? I think you are a volleyball fan.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ax is talking out of his you-know-what on this one. He reads these stories from Joe D. haters about how Joe D. got all these favorable calls, so his 56-game hitting streak must be bogus (nevermind that Joe D. hit in 16 consecutive games after the streak ended--where the official scorers unaware the streak had ended?? and how about the 61-game hitting streak Joe D. had in the PCL, were the scorers fixing hits for him back then when he was in the minor leagues too?). Truth is, Ripken was a hero, a HOFer and a terrific ballplayer who came to play hard each and every day and always gave his best effort. In my book, guys like him & Gehrig are true role models because the achievment of playing each and every day is not as exciting as the homers and the hits, but demonstrates a far greater accomplishment--showing up to work every day, something a guy should be admired, not criticized for.


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  • Something like his conspiracy theories on 9/11. Joe D's Hitting Streak was a consipracy. LOL
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    spammy, I thought you were banned?

    and grote, its not just 'joe d haters', but I have read several accounts of the questionable scoring.

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    showing up to work every day, something a guy should be admired, not criticized for.


    According to axhole a person can use the company time to surf the net so why would he admire what Gerhig and Ripken did?

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  • jad22jad22 Posts: 535 ✭✭
    I don't understand why anyone would admire Ripken, he so overrated and his streak was meaningless. Lou Gehrig peformed at an amazing level during his streak. The guy was an rbi machine Ripken was just whiny hack.
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    Jad, most would describe your posts as that of a whiny hack.
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  • jad22jad22 Posts: 535 ✭✭
    whatever Bri, like your whining over munson or the whining when your wife realized she married a fat pig like yourself.
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    Nice comeback, good work, kudos image
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