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WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
Been collecting for 40+ years and never found anything like this. This is a 1956 D Washington from an unopened bank roll which I opened the other day. The "R" is an incuse impression. I assume in the minting process the "R" was dropped from another quarter and "imprinted" on this one. Have you seen this before? Welcome opinions and more detailed explanation of how this might have happened.

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  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    Interesting. It doesn't look like it exactly matches the R in trust. Still interesting.

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  • << <i>Interesting. It doesn't look like it exactly matches the R in trust. Still interesting.

    -Amanda >>



    i think the r's do match. just a bit distorted.
    Nick
  • More likely post-mint stamped/punched with an R?
    Dave - Durham, NC


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  • mnmcoinmnmcoin Posts: 2,165
    The diagonal leg of the R in TRUST looks much longer than the R floating in the field. Is there any impression on the other side, right where the R is?

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  • << <i>

    << <i>Interesting. It doesn't look like it exactly matches the R in trust. Still interesting.

    -Amanda >>



    i think the r's do match. just a bit distorted. >>




    I agree. Remember, the metal doing the impression is softer than a die. It would distort rather quickly i would think.

    Probably not many like that.

    image on your awesome find !
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MNMCoin - No impression at all on the reverse.
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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Struck through a dropped filling. See A. Hebert, Guide to Mint Errors, at 257 (6th ed. 2002).
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Dropped letter.
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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    There were recently a number of threads about dropped letters.
  • It doesn't look like a dropped letter (hardened grease from a filled letter that fell out). The color of the impression should be different. This almost looks like a counter-stamp.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a dropped letter error and a nice one at thatimage
    Those are hard to find-congrats
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"


  • << <i>It doesn't look like a dropped letter (hardened grease from a filled letter that fell out). The color of the impression should be different. This almost looks like a counter-stamp. >>


    I agree
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A "dropped letter" is a very cool find. I don't think you will find it defined under LINGO on this site, but it does fall under this definition: error
    A numismatic item that unintentionally varies from the norm. Ordinarily, overdates are not errors since they were done intentionally while other die-cutting “mistakes” are considered errors. Double dies, planchet clips, off-metal strikings, etc. also are errors.

    It is quite rare to find and though some like to try and call it post strike it appears to have complete luster, this one is out of a new roll of quarters and unsearched. Chances are you have an MS66+ error that is certainly in HOT demand by some collectors of errors. I, for one, love it and would be more than happy to bid against others for it image

    now , on the flipside of the coin...


    it's junk...

    I'll give ya five bucks for it image
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    -- "some like to try and call it post strike" --

    How can anyone claim that it is post strike when the error is clearly caused by the coin being struck with a piece of a filled die between it and one of the dies? image
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I put together a top registry Wahington set and sold most of the coins a few years ago... I know how to grade Washingtons. This coin is from an original roll and should grade MS 63 due to marks on the cheek. Luster is full and unbroken... cleaerly original.
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  • is it sunk in or raised up? if its sunk in it is probably a post mint counter strike because a dropped letter would be raised like the rest of the letters on the coin I would think anyhow. I am in no way an error expert just repeating what i have heard others say in the past
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Looks like something filled the "R" in "TRUST" in the die. Then whatever plugged the "R" fell out on the next quarter that went through and the floating "R" was stammped into the planchet. Thats just my crazy guess.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,722 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Interesting. It doesn't look like it exactly matches the R in trust. Still interesting. -Amanda >>

    i think the r's do match. just a bit distorted. >>

    I agree, matches the R in TRUST, great find.
  • mas3387mas3387 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭
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    Great Find, Congratulations!!!!

    I never heard or saw this type of error either until last month

    This is how it was explained to me on the Ohio:

    A letter recess on the die fills with gunk, which becomes hardened under pressure of repeated strikes and then drops out intact. This piece is hard enough that it is struck into the next coin. (The impression should be sunken into the surface of the coin.)
    The retention of some original "gunk" in the dropped letter is regarded as a nice bonus, a pretty rare error.

    Here's 2 dropped letter coins I Found last month

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    This Ohio State Quarter was found in a $25.00 mint Bag. It was featured in Coin world last month and is now at PCGS for grading.

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    This 1999 Lincoln was found when I opened a sealed box of 3 1999 Mint sets. It is on it's way back from CW and will be in a upcoming issue. It is still in the Mint set along with the other coins. Should I leave it in the set? Or cut it and send it off to PCGS?

  • looks AT to me
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    The 1999 cent can't be a dropped letter. There is no Y shaped like that on the cent. The Y in LIBERTY has the spread arms at the top and the a sraight vertical desender. The incuse "Y" on you coin has a straight side and the short arm branching off from it.
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,158 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool

    send it in to be graded & see if a TPG agrees that its a dropped letter.
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  • The "dropped letter" is really nice. I can't help looking at the pic and seeing "doubled die". There are split seriffs at the bottom of the "D" and
    the top left of the "W". Is this just photo effects?

    Bob


  • << <i>This 1999 Lincoln was found when I opened a sealed box of 3 1999 Mint sets. It is on it's way back from CW and will be in a upcoming issue. It is still in the Mint set along with the other coins. Should I leave it in the set? Or cut it and send it off to PCGS? >>



    If it is a dropped letter on the Lincoln cent (see Condors post) then I would contact PCGS to see if it can be certified in it's original holder. If they won't do it then I'd ask NGC.

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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boston,

    Light machine doubling... not a doubled die.
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  • <<Windycity>>

    Can you get a picture without direct lighting?
    Joe
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  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>More likely post-mint stamped/punched with an R? >>


    No way. I don't see any raised, displaced metal surrounding it. Definitely a dropped letter! And a real BEAUTY!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat and interesting error. Any idea what something like this is worth?

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  • Cool error, on a clean 66 quarter. Nice find, never seen anything like it. Good luck.

    96eagle
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Cool Dropped "R". I would be giddy to find one of those! This only goes to show that you never know what you'll find in an OBW roll!

    On the other hand, this also means that there has got to be a least 1 "IN GOD WE T UST" our there somewhere!
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  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536


    << <i>On the other hand, this also means that there has got to be a least 1 "IN GOD WE T UST" our there somewhere! >>


    It could have other letters missing as well. The other letters simply didn't drop onto the next planchet. (Suppose TRU were filled, a coin struck and the T and U fell out and got carried off on that coin. The next planchet comes in and THEN the R falls out and lands on the planchet in the coining chamber.)

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