So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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Derek jeter is one of the most overrated players of all-time. If he played anywhere else he would be a nobody. The team is going to implode and everyone knows it.
<< <i>Derek jeter is one of the most overrated players of all-time. If he played anywhere else he would be a nobody. The team is going to implode and everyone knows it. >>
ummmm no
The only imploding that will be going on are the miserable Red Sox.
<< <i>Derek jeter is one of the most overrated players of all-time. If he played anywhere else he would be a nobody. The team is going to implode and everyone knows it. >>
Lol. I'm guessing every guy who's been in the top 10 in BA 6 times, 6th best out of all active players*, 2 time gold glove winner, World Series MVP, 17th on the active list in runs scored*, 20th on the active list in hits*....oh yeah and 4 rings. lol, don't hate just b/c your team doesn't have a guy like Jete.
*=Denotes; not including the current season in which he's top 5 in the MLB in batting average and top 5 in the MLB in hits.
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<< <i>Lol. I'm guessing every guy who's been in the top 10 in BA 6 times, 6th best out of all active players*, 2 time gold glove winner, World Series MVP, 17th on the active list in runs scored*, 20th on the active list in hits*....oh yeah and 4 rings. lol, don't hate just b/c your team doesn't have a guy like Jete. >>
Has he ever led the league in anything? Ever won a league MVP? Ever been close to a league MVP award winner? Runs scored? Hell, with that lineup, *I* could be top 10 in runs scored. 20th in hits! Woohoo, let's celebrate 20th place!
Jeter's had a nice career, but you yankee fans think he's the second coming of jesus.
<< <i>Lol. I'm guessing every guy who's been in the top 10 in BA 6 times, 6th best out of all active players*, 2 time gold glove winner, World Series MVP, 17th on the active list in runs scored*, 20th on the active list in hits*....oh yeah and 4 rings. lol, don't hate just b/c your team doesn't have a guy like Jete. >>
Has he ever led the league in anything? Ever won a league MVP? Ever been close to a league MVP award winner? Runs scored? Hell, with that lineup, *I* could be top 10 in runs scored. 20th in hits! Woohoo, let's celebrate 20th place!
Jeter's had a nice career, but you yankee fans think he's the second coming of jesus. >>
World Series MVP dipchit. 20th in the MLB active list from 2005. He's now in the Top 15; not bad for a guy who's on the young side. He's more than on pace to break 3000 hits for his career.
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lol, don't hate just because deep down you'd like him to be on your team. Just another homegrown Yankee HOF'er when he retires.
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<< <i>overrated and will never get to 3000 hits, goes out with a whimper, don mattingly style >>
Good point. He is definately on the down side of his career. A .354 average and on pace for 223 hits is a sure sign of that.
Career
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At 32 and finished he has zero chance. >>
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the idolization of Jeter, or people taking jad seriously?
But seriously, Jeter's in the top 15 active players in hits...woohoo! It doesn't even get him in the top 100 all time. And world series MVP? That's like the super bowl MVP, right, where lots of players who have won it who aren't exactly superstars? I wouldn't be hanging my hat on 'world series MVP!'
How's he done for regular season MVP voting? Hmm lemme look:
Wow, exactly TWICE he's been higher than 10th...a third and a sixth. Yeah, he's a hero!
He's never led the league in batting average (finished top 5 only 3 times), led the league in hits ONCE, runs scored ONCE. When are you yankee fans going to wake up and realize he's not all that great?
So answer this, does Jeter make the HOF? Point blank, a one word answer.
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Right now, I don't see how Jeter has the numbers to merit HoF induction.
I am sure you are going to say 'he's going to get to 3000 hits!' Sure, if he gets there, yes.
But isn't a Hall of Famer supposed to be a dominating player? A player above everyone else?
I just don't see anything dominating about Jeter's numbers or performances. As I stated, he's never led the league in BA which is supposed to be his greatest strength, no MVP awards.
<< <i>So answer this, does Jeter make the HOF? Point blank, a one word answer. >>
One word answer Twit. I said nothing about if his career was over today. He's 32. One word answer, no reason to dance around....So what'll your answer be, when Jeter's career is finished, do YOU think he's in the HOF or not? One word buddy.
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<< <i>Right now, I don't see how Jeter has the numbers to merit HoF induction.
I am sure you are going to say 'he's going to get to 3000 hits!' Sure, if he gets there, yes.
But isn't a Hall of Famer supposed to be a dominating player? A player above everyone else?
I just don't see anything dominating about Jeter's numbers or performances. As I stated, he's never led the league in BA which is supposed to be his greatest strength, no MVP awards.
What about him says HoF to you? >>
Ax, man,
One thing I give you credit for is your tenacity and determination. These Jeter threads keep reappearing.
I am not going to rehash the stats I had included in previous threads, but if Jeter isn't a Hall of Famer than neither is Brett, Molitor, Yount, Sandberg, Morgan, and Perez - among others. If Jeter retires today, he's a Cooperstowner.
One thing I give you credit for is your tenacity and determination. These Jeter threads keep reappearing.
I am not going to rehash the stats I had included in previous threads, but if Jeter isn't a Hall of Famer than neither is Brett, Molitor, Yount, Sandberg, Morgan, and Perez - among others. If Jeter retires today, he's a Cooperstowner. >>
Writer, this is not a "Jeter" thread. It is a "Sox are going down in flames" thread
<< <i>Last time I checked, the Yankees' outfield was in disarray, the pitching staff was a mess, and they weren't in first place.
It'd be one thing if the red sox had lost Schilling, Beckett, Papi, or Manny, but last time I checked, all those guys were still healthy. >>
Yanks have a rookie batting .280+ and a "washed up" centerfielder have a revival of his career. Oh...and that guy that no one wanted to pay from Philly. That's a good enough outfield. Not great as it once was; but since when did names like Wily Mo pena, Coco Crisp, and Trot Nixon EVER put fear into the hearts of opposing pitchers? lol. Oh....haven't checked standings lately? Here's a little update; Mariners are last place in the weakest division in the Major while the Yankees are atop the most competitive. Btw, the pitching staff has a Top 10 era in all the majors. Once again....your points....ehhh more like dulls.
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AL east is the most competitive? Uhm *you* may want to check your facts, that title belongs to the AL central this year. In the east you have the D'rays and Orioles who are really bad teams, and a blue jays team that should be excelling but has disappeared, and 2 800 lb gorillas.
The central you have the best record in baseball, the defending world series winner, and the best 1-2 pitching punch in all of baseball.
As far as the sox outfield, I see you conveniently left out Manny, who is better than anyone the yankees are currently platooning in the outfield. Also, I'll take Schilling and Beckett, with the ROY in Papelbon closing over Mussina and Unit and Rivera closing.
As far as the M's go, they are 3 out, and have been playing incredibly good ball over the last 2 months, and made a nice couple of quiet pickups from Cleveland to shore up the lineup. Don't worry, they'll be there to the end.
One thing I give you credit for is your tenacity and determination. These Jeter threads keep reappearing.
I am not going to rehash the stats I had included in previous threads, but if Jeter isn't a Hall of Famer than neither is Brett, Molitor, Yount, Sandberg, Morgan, and Perez - among others. If Jeter retires today, he's a Cooperstowner. >>
Writer, this is not a "Jeter" thread. It is a "Sox are going down in flames" thread >>
Sorry, I have a relentless habit of defending Jeter.
You're oh so insightful, I am sure the Barney and Friends message board patrons must think you're a genius. And you think Jeter would waltz into the hall if he retired today? I take it that guys with 2000 hits and no MVPs and no batting titles are locks for the hall now?
Did I miss a memo?
As far as the Sox go, they'll be fine...again, unlike the yankees, who have no pitching outside Mussina, the Sox still have Manny and Ortiz - both of whom seem to be having pretty good years.
<< <i>again, unlike the yankees, who have no pitching outside Mussina, the Sox still have Manny and Ortiz - both of whom seem to be having pretty good years. >>
really Ax? The longer people think the 13-4 Wang with 18 straight scoreless inning is a nobody the better off the Yankees are
<< <i>As far as the Sox go, they'll be fine...again, unlike the yankees, who have no pitching outside Mussina, the Sox still have Manny and Ortiz - both of whom seem to be having pretty good years. >>
Make no mistake, I hate, no loathe, all things Yankees. However, I do think they have some pitching outside of Mussina. Chien-Ming Wang has been as good as can be lately and of course, don't forget Rivera. That being said, I don't think the Red Sox are ready for the fat lady to sing just yet. They do have a knack for hanging around ballgames until the very end and winning a few that they tried to give away. They have bouts of poor hitting, mistake-filled pitching, and poor decisions on the base paths, but they seem to come up smelling like roses more often than not. The loss of Varitek is, IMO, not as bad as it would seem to someone who hasn't watched about 100 of the Sox games this year. Varitek has been having a miserable year at the plate. When he's batting lefty, just throw him a shoetop high and way inside curve and watch him swing away like a blindfolded kid trying to hit a piñata. Mirabelli is batting much worse than Varitek, but I expect his average to creep up a bit as he gets more playing time. He's better than the Mendoza line. Wily Mo is a defensive liability compared to Nixon, mostly in his mental preparedness to make the right choice when he has the ball. However, with playing time people will see that Wily Mo can hit. He is just learning to hit what the pitchers give him rather than trying to smoke everything to left over the wall. The weak link with the Sox continues to be the bullpen. Hansen has flat out sucked, IMO. Delcarmen is either lights out or Hansen Jr., but mostly lights out. The rest of the middle relief guys I would trade for a bucket of ice. Anyway, what I'm saying is to hold off on the fork, the Sox have ample opportunity to win the division or the wild card.
<< <i> . Anyway, what I'm saying is to hold off on the fork, the Sox have ample opportunity to win the division or the wild card. >>
great post barndog. The most reality filled thoughts from a cox fan around here in a while. Perkdog is good too. He doesn't lay the propaganda on too thick either.
But what FUN would it be to hold off on the FORK !!! Whoooooo Hoooooooo baby!
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Ho-Hum just another walk off win. Can anyone put us away? You guys are loving us this week huh?
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must be that they are all hot about Jeters cologne coming out ....
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bah-bye...........see ya next season.
Real classy there.
<< <i>Derek jeter is one of the most overrated players of all-time. If he played anywhere else he would be a nobody. The team is going to implode and everyone knows it. >>
ummmm no
The only imploding that will be going on are the miserable Red Sox.
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-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>Derek jeter is one of the most overrated players of all-time. If he played anywhere else he would be a nobody. The team is going to implode and everyone knows it. >>
Lol. I'm guessing every guy who's been in the top 10 in BA 6 times, 6th best out of all active players*, 2 time gold glove winner, World Series MVP, 17th on the active list in runs scored*, 20th on the active list in hits*....oh yeah and 4 rings. lol, don't hate just b/c your team doesn't have a guy like Jete.
*=Denotes; not including the current season in which he's top 5 in the MLB in batting average and top 5 in the MLB in hits.
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<< <i>Lol. I'm guessing every guy who's been in the top 10 in BA 6 times, 6th best out of all active players*, 2 time gold glove winner, World Series MVP, 17th on the active list in runs scored*, 20th on the active list in hits*....oh yeah and 4 rings. lol, don't hate just b/c your team doesn't have a guy like Jete. >>
Has he ever led the league in anything? Ever won a league MVP? Ever been close to a league MVP award winner? Runs scored? Hell, with that lineup, *I* could be top 10 in runs scored. 20th in hits! Woohoo, let's celebrate 20th place!
Jeter's had a nice career, but you yankee fans think he's the second coming of jesus.
now that's funny....not in any way surprising to see... and perhaps a bit tragic for the lil' bugger....
......but damn funny anyhow.
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<< <i>
<< <i>Lol. I'm guessing every guy who's been in the top 10 in BA 6 times, 6th best out of all active players*, 2 time gold glove winner, World Series MVP, 17th on the active list in runs scored*, 20th on the active list in hits*....oh yeah and 4 rings. lol, don't hate just b/c your team doesn't have a guy like Jete. >>
Has he ever led the league in anything? Ever won a league MVP? Ever been close to a league MVP award winner? Runs scored? Hell, with that lineup, *I* could be top 10 in runs scored. 20th in hits! Woohoo, let's celebrate 20th place!
Jeter's had a nice career, but you yankee fans think he's the second coming of jesus. >>
World Series MVP dipchit. 20th in the MLB active list from 2005. He's now in the Top 15; not bad for a guy who's on the young side. He's more than on pace to break 3000 hits for his career.
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<< <i>overrated and will never get to 3000 hits, goes out with a whimper, don mattingly style >>
Good point. He is definately on the down side of his career. A .354 average and on pace for 223 hits is a sure sign of that.
Career
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At 32 and finished he has zero chance.
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Coincidently, the Boston Red Sox players annual golf outing will begin the very same day.
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>
<< <i>overrated and will never get to 3000 hits, goes out with a whimper, don mattingly style >>
Good point. He is definately on the down side of his career. A .354 average and on pace for 223 hits is a sure sign of that.
Career
1623 games 2075 hits
At 32 and finished he has zero chance. >>
In case that "gal" or her alt didn't get a chance to see it.
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-- Yogi Berra
the idolization of Jeter, or people taking jad seriously?
But seriously, Jeter's in the top 15 active players in hits...woohoo! It doesn't even get him in the top 100 all time. And world series MVP? That's like the super bowl MVP, right, where lots of players who have won it who aren't exactly superstars? I wouldn't be hanging my hat on 'world series MVP!'
How's he done for regular season MVP voting? Hmm lemme look:
Wow, exactly TWICE he's been higher than 10th...a third and a sixth. Yeah, he's a hero!
He's never led the league in batting average (finished top 5 only 3 times), led the league in hits ONCE, runs scored ONCE. When are you yankee fans going to wake up and realize he's not all that great?
-- Yogi Berra
So answer this, does Jeter make the HOF? Point blank, a one word answer.
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I am sure you are going to say 'he's going to get to 3000 hits!' Sure, if he gets there, yes.
But isn't a Hall of Famer supposed to be a dominating player? A player above everyone else?
I just don't see anything dominating about Jeter's numbers or performances. As I stated, he's never led the league in BA which is supposed to be his greatest strength, no MVP awards.
What about him says HoF to you?
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>So answer this, does Jeter make the HOF? Point blank, a one word answer. >>
One word answer Twit. I said nothing about if his career was over today. He's 32. One word answer, no reason to dance around....So what'll your answer be, when Jeter's career is finished, do YOU think he's in the HOF or not? One word buddy.
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<< <i>He has a cologne coming out. If that doesnt say HOF then NOTHING does. >>
anyway, what does this stupid Jeter debate have to do with THIS .........
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<< <i>Right now, I don't see how Jeter has the numbers to merit HoF induction.
I am sure you are going to say 'he's going to get to 3000 hits!' Sure, if he gets there, yes.
But isn't a Hall of Famer supposed to be a dominating player? A player above everyone else?
I just don't see anything dominating about Jeter's numbers or performances. As I stated, he's never led the league in BA which is supposed to be his greatest strength, no MVP awards.
What about him says HoF to you? >>
Ax, man,
One thing I give you credit for is your tenacity and determination. These Jeter threads keep reappearing.
I am not going to rehash the stats I had included in previous threads, but if Jeter isn't a Hall of Famer than neither is Brett, Molitor, Yount, Sandberg, Morgan, and Perez - among others. If Jeter retires today, he's a Cooperstowner.
<< <i> Ax, man,
One thing I give you credit for is your tenacity and determination. These Jeter threads keep reappearing.
I am not going to rehash the stats I had included in previous threads, but if Jeter isn't a Hall of Famer than neither is Brett, Molitor, Yount, Sandberg, Morgan, and Perez - among others. If Jeter retires today, he's a Cooperstowner. >>
Writer, this is not a "Jeter" thread. It is a "Sox are going down in flames" thread
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It'd be one thing if the red sox had lost Schilling, Beckett, Papi, or Manny, but last time I checked, all those guys were still healthy.
<< <i>Last time I checked, the Yankees' outfield was in disarray, the pitching staff was a mess, and they weren't in first place.
It'd be one thing if the red sox had lost Schilling, Beckett, Papi, or Manny, but last time I checked, all those guys were still healthy. >>
outfield disarray? No
Pitching a mess? Who's isn't
weren't in first place? Check again
Sox are done? Oh you better believe it baby
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<< <i>Last time I checked, the Yankees' outfield was in disarray, the pitching staff was a mess, and they weren't in first place.
It'd be one thing if the red sox had lost Schilling, Beckett, Papi, or Manny, but last time I checked, all those guys were still healthy. >>
Yanks have a rookie batting .280+ and a "washed up" centerfielder have a revival of his career. Oh...and that guy that no one wanted to pay from Philly. That's a good enough outfield. Not great as it once was; but since when did names like Wily Mo pena, Coco Crisp, and Trot Nixon EVER put fear into the hearts of opposing pitchers? lol. Oh....haven't checked standings lately? Here's a little update; Mariners are last place in the weakest division in the Major while the Yankees are atop the most competitive. Btw, the pitching staff has a Top 10 era in all the majors. Once again....your points....ehhh more like dulls.
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The central you have the best record in baseball, the defending world series winner, and the best 1-2 pitching punch in all of baseball.
As far as the sox outfield, I see you conveniently left out Manny, who is better than anyone the yankees are currently platooning in the outfield. Also, I'll take Schilling and Beckett, with the ROY in Papelbon closing over Mussina and Unit and Rivera closing.
As far as the M's go, they are 3 out, and have been playing incredibly good ball over the last 2 months, and made a nice couple of quiet pickups from Cleveland to shore up the lineup. Don't worry, they'll be there to the end.
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<< <i> Ax, man,
One thing I give you credit for is your tenacity and determination. These Jeter threads keep reappearing.
I am not going to rehash the stats I had included in previous threads, but if Jeter isn't a Hall of Famer than neither is Brett, Molitor, Yount, Sandberg, Morgan, and Perez - among others. If Jeter retires today, he's a Cooperstowner. >>
Writer, this is not a "Jeter" thread. It is a "Sox are going down in flames" thread
Sorry, I have a relentless habit of defending Jeter.
Did you hear about Varitek?
Yeah right, at the Seattle Sanitation plant. You a twit.
Double Twit.
You're oh so insightful, I am sure the Barney and Friends message board patrons must think you're a genius. And you think Jeter would waltz into the hall if he retired today? I take it that guys with 2000 hits and no MVPs and no batting titles are locks for the hall now?
Did I miss a memo?
As far as the Sox go, they'll be fine...again, unlike the yankees, who have no pitching outside Mussina, the Sox still have Manny and Ortiz - both of whom seem to be having pretty good years.
<< <i>again, unlike the yankees, who have no pitching outside Mussina, the Sox still have Manny and Ortiz - both of whom seem to be having pretty good years. >>
really Ax? The longer people think the 13-4 Wang with 18 straight scoreless inning is a nobody the better off the Yankees are
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<< <i>As far as the Sox go, they'll be fine...again, unlike the yankees, who have no pitching outside Mussina, the Sox still have Manny and Ortiz - both of whom seem to be having pretty good years. >>
Make no mistake, I hate, no loathe, all things Yankees. However, I do think they have some pitching outside of Mussina. Chien-Ming Wang has been as good as can be lately and of course, don't forget Rivera. That being said, I don't think the Red Sox are ready for the fat lady to sing just yet. They do have a knack for hanging around ballgames until the very end and winning a few that they tried to give away. They have bouts of poor hitting, mistake-filled pitching, and poor decisions on the base paths, but they seem to come up smelling like roses more often than not. The loss of Varitek is, IMO, not as bad as it would seem to someone who hasn't watched about 100 of the Sox games this year. Varitek has been having a miserable year at the plate. When he's batting lefty, just throw him a shoetop high and way inside curve and watch him swing away like a blindfolded kid trying to hit a piñata. Mirabelli is batting much worse than Varitek, but I expect his average to creep up a bit as he gets more playing time. He's better than the Mendoza line. Wily Mo is a defensive liability compared to Nixon, mostly in his mental preparedness to make the right choice when he has the ball. However, with playing time people will see that Wily Mo can hit. He is just learning to hit what the pitchers give him rather than trying to smoke everything to left over the wall. The weak link with the Sox continues to be the bullpen. Hansen has flat out sucked, IMO. Delcarmen is either lights out or Hansen Jr., but mostly lights out. The rest of the middle relief guys I would trade for a bucket of ice. Anyway, what I'm saying is to hold off on the fork, the Sox have ample opportunity to win the division or the wild card.
<< <i> . Anyway, what I'm saying is to hold off on the fork, the Sox have ample opportunity to win the division or the wild card. >>
great post barndog. The most reality filled thoughts from a cox fan around here in a while. Perkdog is good too. He doesn't lay the propaganda on too thick either.
But what FUN would it be to hold off on the FORK !!! Whoooooo Hoooooooo baby!
The Sox are A Burning Thing
And they make A Fiery Ring
Bound By Wild Desire
they Fell Into A Ring Of Fire
The Sox Fell Into A Burning Ring Of Fire
They Went Down, Down, Down
And The Flames Went Higher
And It Burns, Burns, Burns
The Ring Of Fire
The Ring Of Fire
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.......maybe Theo can hire him to pitch against them every night....kinda like the Harlem Globe Trotters
otherwise it's back to curses, spells and excuse making.
Are Randy and Moose icing their shoulders yet? I cant wait for Matsui AND Sheffield to come back to the lineup and do their own version of the Derek Lee thing..............................Yankees S U C K ! Yankees S U C...well you get the picture.