I asked for pics of the cert OR the cert #. Reply: "All of the photos I have of this coin are listed on the auction." Totally ignored the cert # request - not that a "SMART" scammer couldn't dig one up.
You also have to return it in the "unopened postal package it was shipped in"!!!
OK,....I'm going to rerturn a coin that I never even opened the package up to take a look at to see how badly I got scammed?!
I sent them this question.... Your auction title and pictures state and show a coin in a PCGS slab,....yet in the fine print at the very bottom you state: Buyer agrees that there is no refund on shipping or insurance and buyer also agrees to pay all sellers fees plus a 15% restocking fee if coin is returned because coin IS NOW RAW AND ISN'T IN A PCGS SLAB.
My questions are....WHY DID YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE SLAB? How can you assure me that I am getting the actual coin that is pictured IN THE SLAB, when it is NO LONGER in the slab? Thanks, gandyjai
I can't believe people actually get away with CRAP like that!
I'm speechless at this earlier auction by this seller. Got positive feedback too!
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
"I assure you the coin that was is the slab(and in the photos) is the actual coin being auctioned, and is the coin you will recieve if you are the winning bidder. The coin was removed from the slab because the slab was damanged, but the coin was not damaged in any way only the slab it was in."
My reply was: I am not so sure that it looks like a 42/1-D...Could you please send me the certification number and that way I can check to be sure. Thanks, gandyjai
<< <i>The Coin Pic you show does not have the 1942/1 overdate. Is there a mistake or are you just confused. Please post a proper pic or just go ahead and pull the listing. >>
responce I just got :
<< <i>the coin in the pic is the 42/1 overdate. I have had this coin graded by PCGS and I also have had this coin AUTHENICATED! I have been bombed with hateful messages on this item,people calling me a liar,scam artist,ect. So I am ending this auction I will have no problem whatsoever sending this coin to a major coin dealer and having it auctioned that way and for a lot more money. I hope this answers your questions on this. Thank you >>
The slab was damaged so I removed the coin from the slab. I do not have the certification #.Just so you know I had a powerseller ask for other pics of coin which I e-mailed. He then e-mailed me back with LOW offer to sell outside of e-bay, which I refused and told him I was reporting him. Unfortantly e-bay won't do anything since the e-mail was sent outside of e-bay. So this powerseller made up a bogus name and drove the price so high on this item a ligitimate buyer wont bid on it now. So when this auction ends(I cant cancell it under 12 hours left) I am cancelling my e-bay accoubt since they do not enforce what they say they will. If you have any other questions feel free to e-mail me funmissouricple@yahoo.com FYI coin was certified ms-62fb and coin has been AUTHENICATED this year and I have the paperwork on it.
Larry Shapiro Rare Coins - LSRC POB 854 Temecula CA 92593 310-541-7222 office 310-710-2869 cell www.LSRarecoins.com Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26 Baltimore July 14-17 Chicago August 11-15
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"A picture is worth a thousand words so look at the pics"
1997 Matte Nickel strike thru U "Error Collector- I Love Dem Crazy Coins" "Money, what is money? It is loaned to a man; he comes into the world with nothing and he leaves with nothing." Billy Durant. Founder of General Motors. He died a pauper.
I hope you are aware of the fact that your statment can constitute defamation of charater,and you can be sued for that. In fact if I choose to I can have you summoned to court if I so choose. My auction is NOT BOGUS! as I have the actual coin in question and I can very easly have it re-authenicated by an expert.
So I reply:
Truth is a defense to any alleged defamation. I'd relish a lawsuit so I can counter sue for abuse of process!.
The guys who set up phony accounts to bid and interfere in this auction - you do realize that you could be kicked off eBay permanently if found out, don't you?
I mean by any means of identity - I.P. address, etc.
I'm as much against fraudulent sellers as the next guy, but I don't think I would personally take that risk. If it is a fraudulent listing, you are supposed to report it and leave it at that.
(places flame-proof suit on)
John
John C. Knudsen, LM ANA 2342, LM CSNS 337 SFC, US Army (Ret.) 1974-1994
<< <i>The guys who set up phony accounts to bid and interfere in this auction - you do realize that you could be kicked off eBay permanently if found out, don't you?
I mean by any means of identity - I.P. address, etc.
I'm as much against fraudulent sellers as the next guy, but I don't think I would personally take that risk. If it is a fraudulent listing, you are supposed to report it and leave it at that. >>
If I was going to interfere with an auction, I would do it with an account created with an email address entirely unrelated to my real ones, and log in from a public terminal at a library or internet cafe.
That's how I'd do it. I'm not sure how eBay could track such activity back to the real me.
Comments
<< <i>"Could you provide me the certification number?" - Email sent >>
Ditto.
BTW, am I missing something or is this not the 42/1 variety?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>
<< <i>"Could you provide me the certification number?" - Email sent >>
Ditto.
BTW, am I missing something or is this not the 42/1 variety?
Russ, NCNE >>
The eggspert is right! This is a very deceptive auction.
Read the fine print " fees plus a 15% restocking fee if coin is returned because coin is now raw and isnt in a pcgs slab."
Do you think that her 1955 double die cent is genuine?
<< <i>
Do you think that her 1955 double die cent is genuine?
Again, read the fine print:
main photo is stock photo. All other photos are of actual coin being auctioned.
<< <i>WOW thanks- I missed that part. Major scam artist at work here. >>
Hey, don't accuse me of complicity on this!
MBT
<< <i>What is the PCGS certification number for this coin? >>
Note, that I didn't even mention images.
And the response I get is:
All of the photos I have of this coin are listed on the auction.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>So, I ask:
<< <i>What is the PCGS certification number for this coin? >>
Note, that I didn't even mention images.
And the response I get is:
All of the photos I have of this coin are listed on the auction.
Russ, NCNE >>
At least you received a response--the seller won't reply to me. Maybe it's my pleasing disposition?
all of the photos I have of this coin are listed on the auction.
<< <i>And her response to me, not surprisedly:
all of the photos I have of this coin are listed on the auction. >>
FLASH--I just received the following response from the seller:
"This message has been reported to e-bay"
What did I say?--I merely quoted the title to this post!
Jeez, I guess I won't get much slep tonight (not)!
OK,....I'm going to rerturn a coin that I never even opened the package up to take a look at to see how badly I got scammed?!
I sent them this question....
Your auction title and pictures state and show a coin in a PCGS slab,....yet in the fine print at the very bottom you state:
Buyer agrees that there is no refund on shipping or insurance and buyer also agrees to pay all sellers fees plus a 15% restocking fee if coin is returned because coin IS NOW RAW AND ISN'T IN A PCGS SLAB.
My questions are....WHY DID YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE SLAB? How can you assure me that I am getting the actual coin that is pictured IN THE SLAB, when it is NO LONGER in the slab?
Thanks,
gandyjai
I can't believe people actually get away with CRAP like that!
Brian
I LOVE ERROR IKES!
You say This message has been reported to e-bay
So have your bogus auctions
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
No sheeeet sherlock.
Seller's reply to me. I'm just an Outback Jack.
roadrunner
"I assure you the coin that was is the slab(and in the photos) is the actual coin being auctioned, and is the coin you will recieve if you are the winning bidder. The coin was removed from the slab because the slab was damanged, but the coin was not damaged in any way only the slab it was in."
My reply was: I am not so sure that it looks like a 42/1-D...Could you please send me the certification number and that way I can
check to be sure.
Thanks,
gandyjai
I LOVE ERROR IKES!
"Can you please provide me the PCGS certification number. Thank you."
This was the seller's response:
"I do not have the cert# as coin has been removed from pcgs slab. But the coin being auction is the actual coin that was graded by pcgs."
<< <i>The Coin Pic you show does not have the 1942/1 overdate. Is there a mistake or are you just confused. Please post a proper pic or just go ahead and pull the listing. >>
responce I just got :
<< <i>the coin in the pic is the 42/1 overdate. I have had this coin graded by PCGS and I also have had this coin AUTHENICATED! I have been bombed with hateful messages on this item,people calling me a liar,scam artist,ect. So I am ending this auction I will have no problem whatsoever sending this coin to a major coin dealer and having it auctioned that way and for a lot more money. I hope this answers your questions on this. Thank you >>
so there you have it
now that wasn't so hard ... was it
Brian
I LOVE
says "www.coinvaluesonline.com".....
interesting that I only get that when I go to that auction page....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
The slab was damaged so I removed the coin from the slab. I do not have the certification #.Just so you know I had a powerseller ask for other pics of coin which I e-mailed. He then e-mailed me back with LOW offer to sell outside of e-bay, which I refused and told him I was reporting him. Unfortantly e-bay won't do anything since the e-mail was sent outside of e-bay. So this powerseller made up a bogus name and drove the price so high on this item a ligitimate buyer wont bid on it now. So when this auction ends(I cant cancell it under 12 hours left) I am cancelling my e-bay accoubt since they do not enforce what they say they will. If you have any other questions feel free to e-mail me funmissouricple@yahoo.com
FYI coin was certified ms-62fb and coin has been AUTHENICATED this year and I have the paperwork on it.
POB 854
Temecula CA 92593
310-541-7222 office
310-710-2869 cell
www.LSRarecoins.com
Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26
Baltimore July 14-17
Chicago August 11-15
<< <i>So I am ending this auction >>
Three hours to go and she hasn't ended the auction. Could be that $10K top bid she thinks she's getting.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I am cancelling my e-bay accoubt since they do not enforce what they say they will. >>
Bwuahahahahahahaha!!!! Like, for example, shutting down scammers like her?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>The seller sent ebayer "imascambuster" a not-so-nice message.
That's not very nice of him.
says "www.coinvaluesonline.com".....
interesting that I only get that when I go to that auction page.... >>>
I thought that was weird.....I got it to!
I wonder WHY?!
Brian
I LOVE
I did every time I went to that listing as well. Only time EVER on eBay????????????
Good job guys!
but just got her first feedback in April of this year!! Is this a 'sleeper'
account?
And the certificates are because he's using https/SSL links to images on Coin World's site, like this one:
https://www.coinworldtrends.com/images/graphics/arrow.gif
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nickelman128zu( 1074Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999
I smell a rat!
I don't much care for the UPS shipping option, myself!
1997 Matte Nickel strike thru U
"Error Collector- I Love Dem Crazy Coins"
"Money, what is money? It is loaned to a man; he comes into the world with nothing and he leaves with nothing." Billy Durant. Founder of General Motors. He died a pauper.
roadrunner
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I hope you are aware of the fact that your statment can constitute defamation of charater,and you can be sued for that. In fact if I choose to I can have you summoned to court if I so choose. My auction is NOT BOGUS! as I have the actual coin in question and I can very easly have it re-authenicated by an expert.
So I reply:
Truth is a defense to any alleged defamation. I'd relish a lawsuit so I can counter sue for abuse of process!.
C'mon, let's dance!!
Does something smell fishy here?
Phew!
Well, looks the seller is no longer a registered user. Shoot!
<< <i>Nice job forum members of outing the scammer. >>
I'm glad to have been part of the assault--this type of crap must be stopped.
I've been fighting an Ebay rip for years (yeah, you got it), and will not give up until justice is served!
The guys who set up phony accounts to bid and interfere in this auction - you do realize that
you could be kicked off eBay permanently if found out, don't you?
I mean by any means of identity - I.P. address, etc.
I'm as much against fraudulent sellers as the next guy, but I don't think I would personally
take that risk. If it is a fraudulent listing, you are supposed to report it and leave it at that.
(places flame-proof suit on)
John
SFC, US Army (Ret.) 1974-1994
<< <i>The guys who set up phony accounts to bid and interfere in this auction - you do realize that
you could be kicked off eBay permanently if found out, don't you?
I mean by any means of identity - I.P. address, etc.
I'm as much against fraudulent sellers as the next guy, but I don't think I would personally
take that risk. If it is a fraudulent listing, you are supposed to report it and leave it at that. >>
If I was going to interfere with an auction, I would do it with an account created with an email address entirely unrelated to my real ones, and log in from a public terminal at a library or internet cafe.
That's how I'd do it. I'm not sure how eBay could track such activity back to the real me.