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Have a good look at these, please. Opinions sought


Please, have a good look at these and opine as to whether or not you believe these are bona fide errors, the results of mechanical malfunction or... "something else". All opinions welcomed. Thank you.

While I, by no means, am an expert when it comes to true errors I do excel at detecting altered and counterfeit U.S. Coins.

Is this the result of mechanical malfunction (jammed in the press), intentional or .....?
Pay particular attention to the lettering, the building itself, etc. Interesting.

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I've seen this type error before but, still the same questions - YOUR opinion please. Error or intentional?

Thank you in advance for expressing your evaluations. image

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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Anybody? image

    Feel free. image

    And please express how you reach your conclusion.

    Thanx.
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Top one is post-mint damage.

    The bottom one got stuck in a counting machine and got abraded by the wheel that's supposed to move the coins through.

    Sorry!

    jonathan
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    The nickel looks like road kill, aka post mint damage. I don't know about the quarter.
    Becky
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,075 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Top one is post-mint damage.

    The bottom one got stuck in a counting machine and got abraded by the wheel that's supposed to move the coins through.

    Sorry!

    jonathan >>




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  • You gotta be kiddin'--no way!
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Judging from the staining and the many hits that go through design elements, I would say the nickel is post-mint damage. I can't think of any way that could have occured at the mint. Jonathonb's explanation for the quarter sounds plausable as well, but I can't really tell much from the image.
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    image Sorry.
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    That was the first impression I got regarding the nickel till I broke out the 18x loupe and began looking at the lettering. In the word "STATES", for example, the tops of the two Ts are very different from a normal nickel in that they curve inward and are shaped like two lower case r's set back to back, almost like a Y but not shaped as deeply as either a Y or two capitalized Ts.

    Look at the S and the T. They are shaped strangely as is the way the visible TED of United exhibits, The first S in States is very strangely shaped. The last S is really FAT. The letters MER are strange also in that they almost look italicized. Granted, IT DOES look lke road kill. That's why I suggested looking at the letters thru a Viewfinder.

    Same with the letters visible on the Obverse. Hammering wouldn't affest the shapes and directions of the letters, the stamping of them I should have taken a shot of the 3rd side because it's not flat. Actually, it is grooved like something that would fit on like a railroad track.

    No sense in saying you're sorry. I asked for opinions and am grateful to those who obliged. I mention the 3rd side because it would stand to reason that had it been hammered it would be flat and definitely NOT with a groove in it.

    The Quarter resembles a washboard, a set of grooves ... a set of symmetrical highs and lows for lack of better description, that resembles a washboard. As stated, I do not really know. (That's but they do not appear to have happened post minting. If I'm wrong it certainly would NOT be the first time. If they are authentic I'm fairly certain that they would not be worth much but 1) they ARE interesting and not the work of someone that had a lot of time on his hands with nothing better to do than to deface US coinage. image

    Thanks again. Just some curiosities that make you scratch your head imageimage
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    I believe that the nickel get it rim pushed in first then hammered. This is just my opinion of course.image

    The quarter is tough to tell for sure from the picture.
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Thanx for the replies and opinions. This place is a plethera of information. I guess that's what I like about it most,

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