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Soriano best mainstream rookie card?

shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
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Is it Bowman Chrome? By mainstream I mean no autograph, insert, refractor, etc.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."

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  • iamthegreatcornholioiamthegreatcornholio Posts: 3,366
    I’m hardly a modern aficionado, but I believe his best “base” RC is the ’99 Ultimate Victory card. They’re fairly condition sensitive.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    There are two very important Soriano rc's..The first 99 Bowman Chrome hails from the 2nd series. It follows the form of the bowman chrome
    card, base card, refrator, international refractor and gold refractor..the later one numbered to just 50. The 2nd series bowman chrome
    cards are centered better than the 1st series, but are still prone to surface damage and line on the refractors.

    The most valuable rookie card is the Ultimate Victory. Coming on the heels of the Mac/Sosa HR wars, this was mostly a retail only
    product released very late in the season and flew under the radar for many months. It wasn't until people realized that it included
    important and best rookie cards of Ankiel, Beckett, Soriano and Burrell, that people took notice. In my opinion of opening hundreds
    of packs, Upper Deck printed the rookies (not all of them true rc's) at a different time as the base cards. The rookie cards almost always
    pulled in horendous shape with many misprinted. It should be noted that this set is listed as condition sensitive and should be treated
    like older sets of the late 70's and early 80's. Book value is for NRMT cards. There were three parallels to every base and rookie card..a
    base parallel which had a shiny gloss to it. A parallel 100 numbered to 100, and a 1/1. The 1/1 has been in a private collection for
    a long time.

    Of note, Soriano did have one autoed card in 99, the topps traded auto parallel, and while not listed as a 1/1. these are much heralded
    by collectors as they were found only one per 99 topps traded sets, and those have all but dried up. Many were also found in sets with
    dinged corners as sets were tossed around.

    I hope this helps.

    Kevin
  • ToppsCo1lectorToppsCo1lector Posts: 2,633
    To me it's the Topps Traded Auto, hard to find and rarely up at auction.
    Collecting;
    Mark Mulder rookies
    Chipper Jones rookies
    Orlando Cabrera rookies
    Lawrence Taylor
    Sam Huff
    Lavar Arrington
    NY Giants
    NY Yankees
    NJ Nets
    NJ Devils
    1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards

    Looking for Topps rookies as well.

    References:
    GregM13
    VintageJeff
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the responses guys. I had no idea the Ultimate Victory card was so popular. Is it limited to a certain number? What do 10's normally bring?
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Not sure about PSA as I don't have access to that info, but the BGS numbers do confirm this trend. I would love to know how many of these
    were graded after say 2004, but there is no way to know that. BGS grading is a joke now. Only 6% of all the cards were graded 9.5.

    22% were graded less than 7.0. The parallel 100's fare a bit better, and the 1/1 is graded BGS 9.0.

    I still have a Josh Beckett that was sent to me straight from UD. The thing was perfect...sent it to beckett back in 2000 came back a 4.5
    with a 4.0 for surface..... the back had some wrinkling in a black section that I didn't see.....you won't see this on ebay auctions either
    so beware!

    I also agree that the topps traded is amazing...think about it, topps was able to get every single player to sign all the cards and not
    use stickers or redemptions......ahhh the good old days!

    Kevin
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