1979 Topps Marc Hill #11
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There is a 1979 Topps article in this month's SMR. Anyone have any 1979 Topps Marc Hill (#11) cards? Apparently, it is impossible to find without a smudge. Only one card has been submitted to PSA and it graded an 8. Strange what cards are tough.
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i'll check my 79s when i get back from vacation next week.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>Here is an auction for one on E-bay doesnt look like it has a smudge, and its just a quarter!
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no smudge but the centering sucks. I wonder if it's compound issues with this card i.e. no smudge means off centered.
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Hey ! Do I get a Finders Fee ? Lets see what is 10% of a quarter ?
On an entirely separate note, can you e-mail me at marc.schoenen@ge.com? I'm interested in some of the 1980 BK Phillies cards you just registered.
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Interesting stuff.
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PSA 9
I don't understand. The brand new SMR says that the highest graded is an 8. Yet, right now, there is a 9 on Ebay. Go figure.
Shane
A time lag, very common, is probably what happened here. A smart operator like 4Sharp decided to send in some Hills, to perhpas get a one of one 9, as maybe they became aware of the article before release and went through their stock of 79s, trying to get a low-pop common or two.
The 1978 Molitor card is very well known for its typical "smudge", the 79 Hill is most likely very similar, but because he is quite "common" it will never get the publicity nor the price of the 78 Molitor Rookie.
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PSA 9
I don't understand. The brand new SMR says that the highest graded is an 8. Yet, right now, there is a 9 on Ebay. Go figure. >>
Is it just me or is there a smudge on this Hill as well?
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<< <i>Yeah, but the smudge isn't that bad. I wonder if PSA took that into consideration when grading... >>
My understanding was that a smudge would automatically knock a card down to an 8, but maybe it's discretionary.
<< <i>It is impossible not to play favorites when somebody brings you that much business....hence the 9. >>
I'm hoping they don't.
The graders are calling them as they see them and don't know whose cards they have.
How can they know to "bump" the card?
mike
<< <i>How can they know to "bump" the card?
mike >>
Sitting in the middle of a thousand card sub, compaired to our 25 to 100 card sub.
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<< <i>How can they know to "bump" the card?
mike >>
Sitting in the middle of a thousand card sub, compaired to our 25 to 100 card sub. >>
Good point.
Like onlyanumber said, maybe the smudge isn't that bad.
I wonder if snipes have been set for this card, considering it has a population of 1 and only one other example has ever been graded, it might be worth bidding on.
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<< <i>How can they know to "bump" the card?
mike >>
Sitting in the middle of a thousand card sub, compaired to our 25 to 100 card sub. >>
There are a few guys that I know who submit very large amounts of cards - in the 500+ range and they say they have never gotten special treatment.
But, I like the idea of special treatment - it's much sexier to talk about things that go "bump" in the night.
mike
Probably does make good business sense to give your best / biggest customers a very slight bit of slack on some cards, But of course we dont really know how the grader or graders do their job.
Perhaps, if a grader is aware the submitter is a large one, he /she may feel that the submitter may be more able to afford a lesser grade. Why not, he has 500 hundred plus cards , so on a 79 common that the grader is torn between a 9 or an 8 , he might just feel this guy can easily accept a grade of 8 instead of the possible 9, much more than a small Joe Schmoe who sends in only 25-50 cards each of which may be of major impotance to him ?? Could it be possible good business to be a slight bit more easy on a small sub., so that he may be more likely to continue to submit ??
Who knows, it is possible ALL subs are treated alike, only variable is the actual grader himself. I would like to add, I have gotten 60-70 cards from the seller being discussed, only one card, a 1980 10 was overgraded in my view. Seems pretty good, or level overall.
<< <i>Just curious but does anyone know why one card would be more than susceptible to smudging than others? Is it placement on the sheet? >>
gremlins perhaps?
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<< <i>How can they know to "bump" the card?
mike >>
Sitting in the middle of a thousand card sub, compaired to our 25 to 100 card sub. >>
There are a few guys that I know who submit very large amounts of cards - in the 500+ range and they say they have never gotten special treatment.
But, I like the idea of special treatment - it's much sexier to talk about things that go "bump" in the night.
mike >>
I have submitted 500+ cards and I really feel like I didn't get the "bump."
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The Marc Hill is interesting of course and is what makes these articles groovy man
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
There's a black sheep in every set, men.
<< <i>Or the Steve Luebber of the '77 set . . .
There's a black sheep in every set, men. >>
Ah, the dreaded Luebber.
How about the '73 Topps Don Wilson?
IMO, the real bear of the '73 set is Hal Breeden (#173) with eight 8s and two 9s, and at least one if not both of those 9s are very recent additions to the pop report. While the Don Wilson has no 9s, there are seventeen 8s.