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What paper or storage device will NT a coin?

jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
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Lets say im storing my coins away for several years. What is the best was to achieve NT on those silver coins? I have had several Dansco albums for about a year now and have noticed very little toning, although there are a few that have begun. What if the coins are placed in paper/mylar coins flip? What about manila evalopes?

I did start a Washington/Statehood quarter set a few years ago in a Whitman album and all the coins have taken a golden tone to them.

What other factors play a role in NT?

Or is it all by chance?

Any experiences out there?

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  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    It is all about the temperature, humidity, atmospheric gasses as well as what level of sulphides and/or acidic chemicals are present in the holder or album. Just remember that there is just as great of a probability that the coins will end up unattractive (corroded looking with black spots or areas and/or splotchiness) as opposed to attractive. Especially if the humidity is too high, the coins might develop unnatractive spots. If the humidity is too low the toning will be minimized and take really long to develop, but it will be less likely to be really nasty looking (and you will have time to notice that the coins are being damaged and you can remove the coins before the damage is as severe).
  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    Old albums. Taco Bell napkins.

    https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/collectors-showcase/world-coins/one-coin-per-year-1600-2017/2422

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In a past thread on this subject, someone said he got good results with Taco Bell napkins. I don't remember if they were used or not.

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  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
    This took a total of 5 weeks to tone

    image
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  • VamGuyVamGuy Posts: 1,624 ✭


    << <i>This took a total of 5 weeks to tone >>

    But it's obviously not AT. image

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    The more effort/trouble you go to and the faster you try to achieve so-called "natural" toning, the closer you are getting to "artificial" toning, instead.image
  • ABC123ABC123 Posts: 2,627
    It would seem that when you go about attempting to Tone a coin by whatever means, by definition, it will be AT ? ? ! ! It is merely achieving the color desired in days, weeks or months rather than a minute or two !
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This took a total of 5 weeks to tone >>

    But it's obviously not AT. image

    image >>



    It naturally toned in my matchbook collection that I have in a jar

    I didn't flame itimage

    Jim
    Pilgrim Clock and Gift Shop.. Expert clock repair since 1844

    Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA

    http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my opinion is that any effort made to achieve toning is an artificial means, the main factor being intent. since the chemical reaction taking place to achieve the tone is technically damaging the surface of the coin it should behoove each of us from intentionally helping that transpire. buying old Wayte Raymond albums, sulfer laden envelopes, setting a coin exposed on a window-sill, all of these achieve artificial tone. you can rationalize things however you want and quite possibly come away with a clear concsience, everything turns on what you intended to do. shouldn't the intent be to preserve the surface integrity of a coin and not hasten change no matter how much we like the way it looks or can possibly enhance our pocketbook??

    JMHO, of course.
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The more effort/trouble you go to and the faster you try to achieve so-called "natural" toning, the closer you are getting to "artificial" toning, instead.image >>



    image
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
    Just an experiment for my own use

    Will NEVER attempt to defraud anybody with this coin

    Got bored one day

    Jim


    Pilgrim Clock and Gift Shop.. Expert clock repair since 1844

    Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA

    http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    I like the message in Keets' post.image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thanks, Mark. i actually think some of this type of stuff can be good if done in the manner that Truthteller did it, sort of like an experiment to help identify what the truth about some of the coins we see might be. when it's done to attain some goal, such as the dearth of members who want to find the old Wayte Raymond folders to achieve a toned set, then i get a sour belly. i actually go the other route; i have two sets where i'm trying to find the nicest toned coins possible and i stick them in an Intercept Shield folder to stabalize them.

    i'm confused by the fact that more don't speak out about such things. when the work of NCS is mentioned, there's generally a voice which says "If you want a brilliant coin just keep looking till you find one, don't mess with a toned coin" or something of that nature. this is the other side of that arguement. certainly there are enough toned coins to meet the demands of collectors so that we don't need to manufacture any additional ones on a hit-miss basis. i wonder, what will be the affect of these "experiments" in 5-10 years??

  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    image



    photoshop loverimage
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
    Morgan from same jar

    reverse was on bottom of jar


    6 months timeimageimageimage

    will NEVER sell

    looks nice though!!!

    Jim
    Pilgrim Clock and Gift Shop.. Expert clock repair since 1844

    Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA

    http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    image

    I dont think that is a real picture. The label says 1974-D.. and appears to be an OGH. A 2003 ASE could never have gotten into a holder like that. I call "PS" (Photoshop image)
  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭


    << <i>my opinion is that any effort made to achieve toning is an artificial means, the main factor being intent. since the chemical reaction taking place to achieve the tone is technically damaging the surface of the coin it should behoove each of us from intentionally helping that transpire. buying old Wayte Raymond albums, sulfer laden envelopes, setting a coin exposed on a window-sill, all of these achieve artificial tone. you can rationalize things however you want and quite possibly come away with a clear concsience, everything turns on what you intended to do. shouldn't the intent be to preserve the surface integrity of a coin and not hasten change no matter how much we like the way it looks or can possibly enhance our pocketbook??

    JMHO, of course. >>



    image
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    c'mon, p8nt, he'd never try to defraud anybody, remember?? image it's actually just the coin laid on the slab.
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
    It's actually a 2005 on top of a slabimage


    not a photoshop job

    Might fool some dumba** on e-bay but not you experts

    image

    Jim
    Pilgrim Clock and Gift Shop.. Expert clock repair since 1844

    Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA

    http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
  • coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭


    << <i>image

    I dont think that is a real picture. The label says 1974-D.. and appears to be an OGH. A 2003 ASE could never have gotten into a holder like that. I call "PS" (Photoshop image) >>



    whats up with that???

    ahhh, ok
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  • WhizzardWhizzard Posts: 955


    << <i>Just an experiment for my own use

    Will NEVER attempt to defraud anybody with this coin

    Got bored one day

    Jim >>



    Try and Indian Head Cent next...image
    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
    image
  • rgl1345rgl1345 Posts: 674


    << <i>

    << <i>The more effort/trouble you go to and the faster you try to achieve so-called "natural" toning, the closer you are getting to "artificial" toning, instead.image >>



    image >>



    Toning sucks anywayimageimage

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