VAMworld - new VAM reference site officially open for business

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy

VAMworld's doors are officially open! Many folks have visited already and VAMworld has been featured in several postings here but I wanted to ensure folks know this new resource exists.
www.vamworld.com.
VAMworld contains reference material on Morgan and Peace dollar varieties. The web site offers close-up photos of many VAMs, attribution guides and other helpful information. Pages for many of the Top 100 VAMs exist along with many other interesting VAMs. The 1921-D "Fun With 1921" VAMs and the other reference material found on www.rjrc.com have all been moved over, and,in many cases, updated and improved. The 21-D and 1899 Micro O attribution guides have been freshened and posted.
In addition to the existing attribution pages, VAMworld contains a request page. If a page doesn't exist for the VAM you are looking for, add it to the request page and the community will do their best to find a reference coin and post attribution information and photos. Post your requests to:
http://vamworld.wikispaces.com/request+page
The special aspect of VAMworld is that the entire site is a "wiki," which is a site that is open for visitors to edit or add information. To add content, simply click the "new page" button on the left, or click the "edit this page" tab at the top of every page. The intent is that the community uses VAMworld as a repository to add "smoking gun" attribution points, multiple photos with additional confirming features, or the latest research revisions on a variety. With participation by many contributors with differing experience and interest, the knowledge base will grow and grow. Forum members coxe, DennisH, mad4morgans,messydesk,nesvt, wolf359, peaceman, morganvamclashie and others have all posted/edited the content or contributed photos for VAMworld. Please come, use the information within the site and contribute where you can!

If you have any problem using VAMworld, you can email vamworld@robjoyce.com.

MrEureka

Very cool! Thanks for doing this. I'll use it.

ss350camaro

Me too !

Bryan1315

I added my pictures of my VAM-84A and I see someone elses name is on it as them uploading it? But its still my pictures and my information how did that happen?

greghansen

I've been there several times already, and I know its only going to get better as time goes on. Great resource!

MAD4MORGANS

<< <i>I added my pictures of my VAM-84A and I see someone elses name is on it as them uploading it? But its still my pictures and my information how did that happen? >>



Bryan,

It could be something as simple as someone adding a link to the VAM-84 or changing a typo.

It also could be someone adding additional attribution info or photos as well.

This is one of the cool things about the site as it can "grow" past the often limited attribution info currently available.

One member (Crae I think), posted a definition explaining the difference between a polished coin (cleaned) and polishing lines Die-Polishing .

I saw his definition and built a page around it using my 1921S VAM-1i as an example and piggy-backed to his definition page. He piggy-backed again to another page and since it has grown adding more info and links to other pages showing other coins and expmples to support various related definitions.

BobaFett72

anyone else unable to open the vam world link? I keep getting a "not found" message and the page times out.

regards
Leo

MAD4MORGANS

Bryan,

After researching the VAM-84A changes made, it appears there are two pages for it. Yours may have not been entirely visible as the page name did not begin with the year and mintmark before the VAM number.

1878-P VAM-84A

VAM-84A

I think the only one that can modify page title after it is made is ROB. I screwed up a couple times myself doing other page titles.

kenmitch

Your site looks like it has alot of potential in the world of vams....Which can be very confusing

With the help of others your site will most likely develope into one of the the best, if not the #1 Vam site on the web!

Thanks,
Ken

Coxe

Ah yes, that may have been the page I mirrored because the title was wrong. I know there was one and the '78 VAM-84A sounds about right. They should be named according to the system: DATE-MM(space)VAM-N.

MORGANHUNTER2

Rob
I spent about an hour on the site this morning- EXCELLENT.

I have a wiki addy when you first put this up in Ashmore's site, but the damn thing won't let me log in- that's ok for now.

I have close to a full box that I want to send to Leroy- I can't find the identities of what I may have as Vams- and I would not be disappointed either way on the outcome(they are all slabbed PCGS') so I'm hoping to get the wiki awake and the to partake a few pics for y'all to assist me in my endeavor of Vammin. though it will be a short run- but it will be fun.

I think it would be nice when there is time of course, to add the non 100/50 Vams so others can attribute their coins via the site, even with the books- it is nice to see the pics on a 21" flat panel monitor!

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy

<!--StartFragment -->Bryan1315,
Terry (mad4morgans) got it right. Your original page was just titled "VAM-84A", not "1878-P VAM-84A" so someone copied the content over to the new page. I can rename them but nobody else can. There actually was a "1878-P-VAM-84A" page too! I've cleaned it up and there is one and the 1878 page, VAM-84 page and the Super CD pages all link to the right page. Sorry that your history in the creation was lost in the page copy. Hopefully you will get credit on other pages! I do appreciate the hard work you put in entering the 84A and apologize I left you and others off the announcement above as contributors.

Regards,

Rob

Bryan1315

Ok thanks, i will be sure to remember that next time, i really love the site I was just wondering how that one thing happened and I hope to contribute more to it as I have quite a few VAM's that aren't on there yet. Its just the getting good pictures of them to upload is my problem

Bryan1315

I must have done something wrong again, I tried to load this page and its not showing up VAM-16 maybe someone can fix this one for me as well, and maybe someday I will be able to do it correctly myself

lava

Congratulations on a great site. A super reference. Fantastic.

nesvt

Bryan,

Not sure what the problem was. It may have been the naming convention. The page should be named "1878-P VAM-16". I copied your page and created a new one under this name. Also added it to the main 1878-P VAMs page. Please verify it looks okay and make any changes if needed.

Bryan1315

looks fine to me, Thanks alot for the help. So it needs to have the "before the date and " after it also? because I had it named 1878-P VAM-16 but didn't put the " in front or after the date

nesvt

<< <i>looks fine to me, Thanks alot for the help. So it needs to have the "before the date and " after it also? because I had it named 1878-P VAM-16 but didn't put the " in front or after the date >>



For the main 1878-P page? I didn't use any quotes.

I entered this...
1878-P [[1878-P VAM-16|VAM-16]] Tripled Stars

In the double brackets, the text before the "|" is the page name; after the "|", is what you want the linked/highlighted text to show.

JJM

wow, what a great online reference !

Bryan1315

Ok I tried it again with a 1921-S VAM1R and it diesn't work again, i tried to do it like 1921-S [[VAM-1R]] and description and it wouldn't take the page said it can only have numbers,coma's and so forth. So I still do not know what I am doing wrong here but I emailed robjoyce and maybe he can explain to me what I am doing wrong. If anyone wants to fix it for me until he replies to my email feel free here is a link to it VAM-1R

nesvt

Bryan,

The name of your page isn't "VAM-1R". It's "1921-S VAM-1R Die Breaks Top Left Wreath". If you want to stick to the naming convention (I don't know if it enforces it), your page name should be "1921-S VAM-1R". When you link it to the 21-S page, you would enter...
1921-S [[1921-S VAM-1R|VAM-1R]] Die Breaks Top Left Wreath

You could see if it will take...
1921-S [[1921-S VAM-1R Die Breaks Top Left Wreath|VAM-1R]] Die Breaks Top Left Wreath

Bryan1315

I guess i will just leave all my VAM's that they dont have off their page because I dont understand that crap. Will you please fix the link I gave above and I will not mess with it anymore

nesvt

<< <i>I guess i will just leave all my VAM's that they dont have off their page because I dont understand that crap. Will you please fix the link I gave above and I will not mess with it anymore >>



No!!!!! We all need this stuff. Bryan, my first page took me forever to create.... and I've been writing software for 20 years. Look at my revision history. I think I changed my first page 50 times!

I think Rob has some basic instructions. They're probably easier to follow than my jibberish.

In short....
Create your page with the name YEAR-MINT VAM-## (like 1921-S VAM-1R). Don't put your description in the page name.
When you edit the main page, the convention is
text [[page|link text]] description
like ...
1921-S [[1921-S VAM-1R|VAM-1R]] Die Breaks Top Left Wreath

I'm doing jibberish again.


EDIT:
I added the link. Because the page name included the description, this is what I put on the one line in the main 1921-S page...
1921-S [[1921-S VAM-1R Die Breaks Top Left Wreath|VAM-1R]] Die Breaks Top Left Wreath

Bryan1315

Ok I think I get it now, I am putting a brief description on the "create a page" part and I shouldn't do that until i am going to "edit the page"

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy

Bryan,
Sorry you were frustrated with your first post. I know the first time I tried to get photos to work on this forum I was really frustrated as well. Once I learned the ropes, it is now easy. Norm is right that we try to format the pages year-mint vam-num so your page would be 1921-S VAM-1R. I've renamed it.

Thanks for posting a really cool VAM! I don't have that one and will start looking for one

Bottom line, keep posting! I'll always help with editing formatting or renaming as necessarty. Folks have coins and pics I don't and seeing what interests others really helps us understand where the new cool discoveries are!

Norm, no need to use the whole [[1921 type stuff. If you want to make a link to a page, just click the little icon with a wold and and a chain link in the menu bar. It will open a pop-up where you can pull down a list of every page on the site. No need to know how to do brackets and other funky editing. It is just pick from a list.

Thanks for the help guys!

Rob

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy

PS: Your renamed page is at http://vamworld.wikispaces.com/1921-S+VAM-1R .

Thanks.

Rob

Bryan1315

I tried it again and still not getting something right 1885 VAM-1A

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy

Bryan,
The page looked good. In the page there is no need to link to itself. I did add a link to it from the 1885-P VAMs page: http://vamworld.wikispaces.com/1885-P+VAMs

and the Hot 50 page:
http://vamworld.wikispaces.com/Hot+50+Morgan+VAMs

Also no need to make the link pages if you can't get them to work. I'll link 'em in if you make a page with pics ;-)

Rob

Bryan1315

and this one if you dont mind 1878-P VAM-82
Rob I didn't read your post until after I had already made the VAM-82 page so I will not do it on the next page I make. If you would tell me what I am doing wrong I wouldn't bother you and you wouldn't have to edit each page I make, because I have quite a few VAM's that is not listed on your site yet

Bryan1315

Ok I finally figured it all out! Took me a few tries but I got it, what i was leaving out was the link on the "Main Page", I was just clicking create new page on the main page and not creating a link on there to link to the page I was creating. Rob I am sorry but there are a few extra 1878-P VAM-195 Broken D pages that will need to be deleted, but hopefully it will not happen again and I will not need anyone to help me fix my pages

Bryan1315

I have added VAM-80 , VAM-82 and VAM-195 to the website, thanks for all of your help, I wont be bothering all of you anymore because I finally figured it out. It was so simple it makes me feel stupid once I figured it out. I guess the Morphine drip the hospital has hooked to me was blinding me (I just had another back surgery) But anyway time to hit the button again and think I will go to sleep. Thanks again for all of your help everyone

MAD4MORGANS

I may try to post a new page that will show screen snapshots that will help people create a page, insert text, photos, and stuff.

It will take a bit of time to construct but might speed up the learning curve.

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy

Bryan,
The pages you created look great! I cleaned off the error pages as you requested. Looks like you are rolling!

Terry,
Creating a how-to-post and do pics would be a great help. Love the idea. I have a start with the page styles naming the pages, and formatting but it doesn't expain posting at all: http://vamworld.wikispaces.com/Page+Styles We'll also need to find a way for it to jump out at the new people that have questions!

Cheers.

Rob

ibzman350

Great site Rob, I'll have to join..


I have a 1921 VAM 57/57A that I' ll try to add.




Herb