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Florida couple earn pretty penny from sale of rare coin

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Nowadays, pennies aren't even worth the metal they're made with. A rare few, however, can fetch 600 million times their worth.

Denis Loring and Donna Levin, of Singer Island, reaped a windfall from a copper 1792 penny the couple bought last year at a Beverly Hills auction for $437,000.

Two months ago, the penny sold for a whopping $660,000 to "an East Coast energy company executive" who wished to remain anonymous, said Greg Rohan, president of Dallas-based Heritage Auction Galleries, which arranged the transaction. The couple took home $600,000. Heritage made a $60,000 commission.

The coin had originally been owned by descendants of Oliver Wolcott, a signer of the Declaration of Independence and Connecticut's governor in the 1790s.

The chocolate-colored rare coin, one of only nine known to exist, bears the date 1792, the inscription "Parent of Science & Indust: Liberty," and the likeness of a woman's head representing "Miss Liberty."

"As silly as it sounds, coins like this, you don't really ever own. You get to be a custodian," Loring said Friday. "It was here long before I was here, and it will be here long after I'm gone."

He said the new owner has a "multimillion-dollar coin collection."

Levin, Loring's wife, said her husband had been trying for years to get her interested in coin collecting.

"He kept pushing me to find a series of coins that I thought would be neat to collect," she said. "I thought, 'Why don't I pick something that is so arcane that we won't ever be able to find the coins to fill a collection.' Never in a million years did I think we'd actually find something. But when it came up for auction, Denis said we had to get it."

Having now convinced her husband that she was a coin collector like him, the couple was ready to pass it on to another owner, but not just to anyone.

"When I sold my first car, I didn't sell it for the highest offer because I wanted to make sure it had a good home," Levin said. "The same with the coin. I wanted to make sure it did not just go to some random person who looked at it as a little trophy and didn't care about it.

"And I actually got my husband to believe that I was a collector, briefly."

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  • 600 million times? Someone should bone up on his math.


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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Michigan, please cite sources and authors of the articles you quote.
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  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Moral of the story....

    Couple makes $ 163,000 by putting up $ 437,000

    Heritage makes $ 60,000 by putting up the coin....



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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,319 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a fairly steep commission for that expensive of a coin...

    Of course, it is not like you can take that to a show and have tons of people clamoring to pay 600K for it. image
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The couple paid big money for the coin, but in a rising coin market with well financed collectors seeking the finest coins, the scarcest coins in top condition will see huge premium increases.

    Hell, A person could have bought some raw acreage in my neck of the woods and made that much money (or more) in about two six months time. I did!

    Tyler
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Not a bad rate of return, if that's your bag.
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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>600 million times? Someone should bone up on his math. >>


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  • TarmacTarmac Posts: 394
    What a bunch of rich idiots.

    So they buy a coin worth more than some people's home just so she can become a collector?

    Then they sell it 1 year later and have the gall to say they did not what to sell it to just anyone? But someone who would give it a good home?

    I will bet they did not make their money because of intelligence.
  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    unmarried?
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  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    Tarmac -- Denis and Donna are both Harvard graduates, and Denis is one of the most dedicated collectors of early coppers.

    They made their money because of their intelligence.
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  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408
    from 1794largecents.com... Loring, Denis W. – An actuary by profession now residing in Singer Island, Florida. Denis is one of the founders and longtime National Secretary of EAC. Specializing in large cents since 1965, Loring wrote the early cent grading standards for the Official ANA Grading Guide. He was the fifth person to complete a complete collection of all numbered Sheldon varieties of early cents. His exhibition of 1794 cents, complete by Hays numbers, won the “Best of Show Award” at the 1982 ANA convention
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A nearly TEN percent selling fee for a classic rarity valued over a half million? Denis may be knowledgeable about coins, but how could he allow such liberal terms to Heritage? Something fishy to me about that scenario.image
    BTW, that was the piece that came from a Rochester, N.Y. family which had kept it in a coffee can for many years as a family keepsake.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just goes to show you that 10% doesn't go as far as it used to.

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty cool to have a coin pedigreed to Oliver Wolcott.

    BTW, that story was a news item on the radio in Connecticut today, which I found unusual. Perhaps the "east coast collector" lives in Conn, or they thought it was of interest because of Wolcott.
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I would hardly call their profit ratio a windfall.

    David
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Nowadays, pennies aren't even worth the metal they're made with.

    Someone needs to bone up on their research.

    A rare few, however, can fetch 600 million times their worth.

    Someone needs to bone up on their math.
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>unmarried? >>



    Not the last I heard; Donna was an attorney with a speciality in divorce....image

    She gave a talk on coin assets/divorce, etc. at an ANA show some years back.




  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    Seems like Heritage is the smart one of the group
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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That is a fairly steep commission for that expensive of a coin...


    It's actually a pretty reasonable commission on that coin. Has little to do with the cost.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Then they sell it 1 year later and have the gall to say they did not what to sell it to just anyone? But someone who would give it a good home?

    This journalist is an idiot...Does he mean to say that they would not have sold it to someone else for more money? Don't think so....The sale may have been for $600,000 and a buyer fee of $60,000 added---i cannot tell the arrangement from the article...Was this an auction or just an arranged sale?
    Heritage has sent me letters saying there is no sellers fee for items bringing over a certain amount that you purchase from them. 10 % is not a high fee at all -i would be happy to pay a 10% fee when i sell anything..That's business. What is a "good home" for a coin? imageimageimage
    Also 600 million times their "worth"? It sold for what it was worth. Face value is a different story.

    Heritage makes $ 60,000 by putting up the coin.
    Heritage makes $60,000 by finding it a "good home" and not just anyone.image

    As silly as it sounds, coins like this, you don't really ever own. You get to be a custodian," Loring said Friday
    Isn't this true about every coin? Everything for that matter?image
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