Dalton & Hamer rates scarcity on a scale of: RRR, RR, R, scarce, and common.
Middle coin, first row: Penny depicting Charles Marquis Cornwall. Suffolk Bury D&H #4. There are edge varieties, #4 - VALUE ONE PENNY AT P. DECKS POST OFFICE BURY 1794 (common) and #4a - Plain (not in collar) RR
Middle coin, second row: Farthing depicting Bladad. Somersetshire D&H #115. Common
Third coin, second row: Half Penny. Yorkshire Sheffield D&H #56. There are 3 edge varieties, #56 - Engralled (common), #56a - Milled RRR, $56b - Plain (not in collar) Common.
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First coin, third row: Half Penny, Shire Hall. Essex Chelmsford D&H #5. There are 6 edge varieties: 5 - PAYABLE AT CLACHAR & CO'S CHELMSFORD ESSEX (Common) 5a - RICHARD BACON CO*CKY LANE (RR) 5b - PAYABLE IN HULL AND IN LONDON . X X (Common) 5c - PAYABLE IN LONDON BRISTOL & LANCASTER . X X (RR) 5d - CURRENT EVERYWHERE (RR) 5e - Plain (not in collar) (R)
R.I.P. Wayne, Brad Collecting: Conder tokens 19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
I see a Stork!! Nice group . Everytime I see some conders I get more fascinated. Does the Dalton/Hamer book talk about their political (if any, I know some of them do) meaning and backgrounds? Or is it more just a listing like a Krause?
Cathy
edited to add...I periodically see the Dalton and Hamer book on ebay, usually in the $125 range. Is that a 'normal' price for one? I'm interested but for a lightweight like me it's a bit much.
Third token, third row: Half Penny Essex Colchester D&H #10. There are 5 edge varieties: 10 - PAYABLE AT CHARLES HEATHS BAY MAKER COLCHESTER . X . (Common) 10a - RICHARD BACON CO*KEY LANE (Scarce) 10b - WILLEY SNEDSHILL BERSHAM BRADLEY (RR) 10c - PAYABLE AT THE WAREHOUSE OF IOHN STRIDE X X X X (RR) 10d - Plain (not in Collar) (RR)
Second and third tokens, 6th row: Farthing Dorsetshire Poole D&H 11. There are 2 edge varieties: 11 - Milled (Common) 11a - Plain (Not in collar) Scarce
It should be noted that the Penny token dated 1812 is not classified as a Conder token. It is from the next wave of token coinage in England.
R.I.P. Wayne, Brad Collecting: Conder tokens 19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Third coin, first row: Half Penny Somersetshire Bristol D&H #101 - Common
The remaining ones get harder to identify in these grades due to the number of subtle varieties which depend on minute placement of details. I suspect that since the dies were done by hand each die combination on some of these end up with their own catalog number. For instance, on the coin above the obverse and reverse designs are covered by numbers 99 - 101. The diagnostics? #99 does not have a period at the end of the legend on the reverse while #100 and 101 do. The difference between #100 and 101 is the size of the S in the word Bristol on the reverse.
R.I.P. Wayne, Brad Collecting: Conder tokens 19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Middle coin third row. I don't see anything after the H in FLOURISH so that would be Norfolk D&H 16. It comes with two edges PAYABLE AT N BOLINGBOKES HABERDASHER &C NORWICH . X . common, and 16a PAYABLE AT LEEK STAFFORDSHIRE RRR
First coin sixth row Norfolk D&H 41 common
First coin fifth row Yorkshire D&H 48 common
Middle coin fourth row Devonshire D&H 2 common
Third coin fourth row Warwickshire 77. Comes with three edges 77 BIRMINGHAM REDRUTH & SWANSEA common, 77a milled edge lllllll RRR, and 77b plain edge RRR
The first coin second row is from Dublin but I don't have the time to attribute it at the moment The first piece first row is from Scotland, again I don't have time right now. The first piece fourth row is from Anglesey I doubt I could attribute it unsell I had it in hand. I may try later though.
The third coin fifth row is the Wicklow piece that you mentioned in your first post. It is Wicklow D&H 45 R.
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Middle coin, first row:
Penny depicting Charles Marquis Cornwall. Suffolk Bury D&H #4. There are edge varieties, #4 - VALUE ONE PENNY AT P. DECKS POST OFFICE BURY 1794 (common) and #4a - Plain (not in collar) RR
Middle coin, second row:
Farthing depicting Bladad. Somersetshire D&H #115. Common
Third coin, second row:
Half Penny. Yorkshire Sheffield D&H #56. There are 3 edge varieties, #56 - Engralled (common), #56a - Milled RRR, $56b - Plain (not in collar) Common.
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Half Penny, Shire Hall. Essex Chelmsford D&H #5. There are 6 edge varieties:
5 - PAYABLE AT CLACHAR & CO'S CHELMSFORD ESSEX (Common)
5a - RICHARD BACON CO*CKY LANE (RR)
5b - PAYABLE IN HULL AND IN LONDON . X X (Common)
5c - PAYABLE IN LONDON BRISTOL & LANCASTER . X X (RR)
5d - CURRENT EVERYWHERE (RR)
5e - Plain (not in collar) (R)
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Nice lookin' lot you have there.
Cathy
edited to add...I periodically see the Dalton and Hamer book on ebay, usually in the $125 range. Is that a 'normal' price for one? I'm interested but for a lightweight like me it's a bit much.
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Nice lookin' lot you have there.
Now THAT's funny.
Half Penny Essex Colchester D&H #10. There are 5 edge varieties:
10 - PAYABLE AT CHARLES HEATHS BAY MAKER COLCHESTER . X . (Common)
10a - RICHARD BACON CO*KEY LANE (Scarce)
10b - WILLEY SNEDSHILL BERSHAM BRADLEY (RR)
10c - PAYABLE AT THE WAREHOUSE OF IOHN STRIDE X X X X (RR)
10d - Plain (not in Collar) (RR)
Second and third tokens, 6th row:
Farthing Dorsetshire Poole D&H 11. There are 2 edge varieties:
11 - Milled (Common)
11a - Plain (Not in collar) Scarce
It should be noted that the Penny token dated 1812 is not classified as a Conder token. It is from the next wave of token coinage in England.
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Half Penny Somersetshire Bristol D&H #101 - Common
The remaining ones get harder to identify in these grades due to the number of subtle varieties which depend on minute placement of details. I suspect that since the dies were done by hand each die combination on some of these end up with their own catalog number. For instance, on the coin above the obverse and reverse designs are covered by numbers 99 - 101. The diagnostics? #99 does not have a period at the end of the legend on the reverse while #100 and 101 do. The difference between #100 and 101 is the size of the S in the word Bristol on the reverse.
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
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First coin sixth row Norfolk D&H 41 common
First coin fifth row Yorkshire D&H 48 common
Middle coin fourth row Devonshire D&H 2 common
Third coin fourth row Warwickshire 77. Comes with three edges 77 BIRMINGHAM REDRUTH & SWANSEA common, 77a milled edge lllllll RRR, and 77b plain edge RRR
The first coin second row is from Dublin but I don't have the time to attribute it at the moment
The first piece first row is from Scotland, again I don't have time right now.
The first piece fourth row is from Anglesey I doubt I could attribute it unsell I had it in hand. I may try later though.
The third coin fifth row is the Wicklow piece that you mentioned in your first post. It is Wicklow D&H 45 R.