Ebay strikes again..Cancelled listing with ONE day left!! Why??
1966CUDA
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Had a 1971 Munson Dell PSA 8 listed. They cancelled the listing this morning. Reason, because I stated that it was 1/1, the ONLY one graded. I even stated "as of 7/13/06 the only one graded". How can they cencel this? And why take SIX days to cancel?? Oh yeah, had almost 200 views and several watchers!! -Claude
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-- Yogi Berra
You have to say Pop 1 or something like that.
Ebay is a bunch of dicks-
Marc
<< <i>You can't say 1/1
You have to say Pop 1 or something like that.
Ebay is a bunch of dicks-
Marc >>
You cannot say 1/1, yet, it is OK to sell an altered card from some other grading companies!!!!
<< <i>You cannot say 1/1, yet, it is OK to sell an altered card from some other grading companies!!!! >>
Selling altered cards is not illegal.
Selling altered cards that are graded is not illegal so long as the grading company is not attesting to the card's being authentic and unaltered.
Problems can arise when a card is graded as authentic an unaltered and the grading company is attesting to such. But, that said, surely all grading companies [including PSA and SGC] have graded altered cards. Perhaps not purposefully, perhaps not often. But it does happen.
m
<< <i>And saying 1/1 is not illegal either, especially if it is the only one! >>
It may not be illegal, but it is not allowed under Ebay's rules.
<< <i>Thats ridiculous!! I stated that the pop. report number was from a specific date. I just dont understand why you cant state what is true and ALSO why it took six days to get cancelled after being looked at by tons of potential buyers!!!! >>
I don't disagree with you. Ebay's position, which makes no sense, is that saying 1/1 implies that it is the only example of the card in the world. Thus, you can't use 1/1 for a population-specific card. You can only use it on one of those modern, shiny, game-used grass, refracting, die-cut autographed 1/1s that is inserted into modern product.
I didn't make the rules. I don't agree with the rules. All it takes is one complaint to take the auction down. I'm just saying what the rules are.
<< <i>Instead of ending the listing, perhaps they could have sent him an email saying he has such and such time to change the "1/1" to "pop 1," but they did not. Now he has to relist it, and wait another week! >>
I don't believe you can chage the title in the middle of an auction.
As MS mentioned above, 1/1 with population is slightly misleading. There very well could be others out there that have yet to be submitted or perhaps with another grading company. If the item is a true 1/1, be it a unique card, auto, bat, etc, then having 1/1 is completely acceptable with Ebay.
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<< <i>Instead of ending the listing, perhaps they could have sent him an email saying he has such and such time to change the "1/1" to "pop 1," but they did not. Now he has to relist it, and wait another week! >>
I don't believe you can chage the title in the middle of an auction.
As MS mentioned above, 1/1 with population is slightly misleading. There very well could be others out there that have yet to be submitted or perhaps with another grading company. If the item is a true 1/1, be it a unique card, auto, bat, etc, then having 1/1 is completely acceptable with Ebay. >>
I understand what you all are saying, but I think most people who are buying cards, know what the 1/1 means. And I think you can change a title if there are not any bids, if I am not mistaken, within the last 12 hours of a listing. But eBay can send an email, and allow an exception for the seller to make the necessary change, ending a listing that fast is quite abrupt in my book!!!
I understand that it sucks to get your auction yanked, but you can put the PSA 1/1 language in the body of the auction, I think.
<< <i>This is still up and running!!! >>
You can be a dick and report it
I really dont get the problem. Its up to the BUYER to educate himself with what he is buying.......
<< <i>This is still up and running!!! >>
well of course it is....that clearly means the grade is PSA 8.5.
what about special characters? how does 4SC get away with the use of the asterisk? i thought this was a 'banned' character as well....
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
What do you guys suggest? Should I relist today as a 3-day auction and hope the people watching will see it....or relist as a regular 7 day again???
<< <i>is it true that they will only pull it if it is reported????
... >>
that is my understanding
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What do you guys suggest? Should I relist today as a 3-day auction and hope the people watching will see it....or relist as a regular 7 day again??? >>
I would relist for 7 days, and I would make a small note in the body of the listing that Ebay had arbitrarily pulled the auction.
M
<< <i>PSA's policy on this seems arbitrary. They cancelled one of my auctions (a PSA 9 1961 Fleer football) last night, but I see many, many more still running with similar or identical titles. Either police ALL or none. I'm wondering if they're simply going off reports from other users. >>
I couldn't agree more. With the size of eBay and their resources I don't see why it would be so difficult to create an automated standard.
eBay reminds me a lot of Dan Duquette. Not a lot of "people skills."
In my opinion it all boils down to the fact that Ebay is a very poorly designed and poorly run web site!!!
The site is one of the most awkward to use on the entire Internet and their policies consist of hundreds of inane "rules". For instance, one of my auctions was once pulled because I stated that I preferred payment via PayPal as long as it wasn't funded from a credit card!
The problem is that (at the moment) its probably the best selling medium available to collectors and Ebay is reporting strong profits in spite of continually raising fees. But the foundation is starting to crack... the stock has lost enormous share value recently and competitors are beginning to threaten their stronghold. It's only a matter of time before a better, more efficient, and more user-friendly auction site appears.
Until that day comes I continue to use Ebay but I will also do whatever it takes to exhaust all other sources to buy and sell collectibles before I resort to Ebay.
Tom
<< <i>What do you guys suggest? Should I relist today as a 3-day auction and hope the people watching will see it....or relist as a regular 7 day again??? >>
I suggest you just sell it to me for the opening price
-- Yogi Berra
You can accurately describe PSA POPs in the body copy
of the listing.
eBay is technically correct in this policy.
The 1/1 can be used in titles to "game" the search
function, waste peoples' time, and mislead new folks.
For expensive cards, you can also buy the subtitle
and accurately describe PSA POPs. ( 1/1 is not the
way to accurately descibe a card that is the only such
card graded by PSA.)
"Currently, PSA has only graded one card #333 as a
GEM MINT 10. This is that card !" Accurate.
"Currently, this is the only PSA10." Accurate.
Also, "finest example known" is misleading. "Finest
example currently graded by PSA," is accurate.
Most folks who have trouble with this have been
turned-in to eBay by someone. eBay is NOT looking
for the "1/1" line on their own. (We can know this
because there are always 100s of these titles on
the site.)
storm
What Ruth card do you have ? I doubt I can afford it right now but you never know !
-- Yogi Berra
-- Yogi Berra