Question about 1933 Goudey

RiskyBusiness · July 19, 2006 9:47AM

I am familiar with much of the history of the Napoleon Lajoe card, but there is one thing that I don't understand. Why was the card ever included in the setl? It looks to me like he played his last game in 1916. Why would he be in the 1933 set at all?

Thanks in advance. Be gentile. I've only been collecting for about 9 months. Got started because my great uncle is in the set.

lawnmowermanswife · July 19, 2006 9:54AM

Welcome my man!

Matt

incugator · July 19, 2006 10:04AM

It is a semi-mystery why they made card 106 Lajoie. It is part of the reason that they card is so valuable. He was a star during his playing era. The card wasn't produced until 1934 and you had to complain to the Goudey company to get the card. There are many cards in the same player 2 times. Why didn't they just make another card of a player in the set? One day, I hope to get my hands on the 33/34 Lajoie, but it comes with a very heafty price. There was one listed on e-bay the other day for $22,500 PSA 4. It may have been $27,500, I can't remember. I don't think it sold. Welcome to the board. If you want to get some info on the '33 Goudey set, you should pick up the most recent SMR magazine. It has a full article on the set. The magazine has Bonds on the front so there may be some people on the board who are willing to give it to you if you pay for shipping. Hope I could help.

BigRedMachine · July 19, 2006 10:06AM

First off,

I don't know the answer to your question, I'm sure someone will chime in soon.

I collect the '55 all american football set and it is filled with players who played before the set was released.

LaJoie isn't the only player in the set who wasn't playing in '33. Tris Speaker is in the set and his last game was in '27 or '28.

Perhaps they added a few stars to increase interest????

Just a guess, I don't know.

Welcome again, hope you enjoy yourself here. There are a lot of great guys who will be able to help you out.

shawn

Stone193 · July 19, 2006 10:15AM

Hi RB

Welcome!

Is that your favorite movie or do you like risky businesses?

Me? I like Lana - aka Rebecca DeMornay in that movie - she was hot, hot, hot!!!!!!!

I hope you enjoy it here.
don't be a stranger, shoes optional.
your friend
mike

RiskyBusiness · July 19, 2006 10:33AM

Thanks for the welcome.

My handle was born in 1983. I was working in Dallas and met a friend who wanted me to go in with him on a fantasy football team. Yes, fantasy football in 1983! Anyway, he was an alum from University of Illinois and Oklahoma. We just liked the line, "looks like University of Illinois!" from the movie. I guess I need to change it since Cruise went wacko.

Moved back to North Carolina in 1989. Thanks for the info.

Tunispaul · July 19, 2006 10:39AM

Hey, Risky Business. Welcome to the boards. By the way, who is your great-uncle? I met a man who was an utility player for the Giants in 1933. Ever since then, I collect 33 Giants and he was featured on the 33 Goudey set. His name was Byrne James.

mikeschmidt · July 19, 2006 11:44AM

Did you know that there also exist a single copy of #106 Leo Durocher?

RiskyBusiness · July 19, 2006 12:41PM

I knew there was something about the Durocher, but did not know much about it.

My uncle was Walter Stewart, better known as Buck. He pitched the deciding game to win the pennant for the Senators. Some guy on the Internet has the ball at Seth.com. He also was a surprising starter for the 1st game of the series. He was chased out early after a fluke home run by Mel Ott. Don't know why he didn't pitch again in the 5 game series. They probably needed a starter for game 6, if necessary. He has two card in the set. I guess it helped to be a Senator or a Giant.

Stone193 · July 19, 2006 12:45PM

<< <i>I knew there was something about the Durocher, but did not know much about it.

My uncle was Walter Stewart, better known as Buck. He pitched the deciding game to win the pennant for the Senators. Some guy on the Internet has the ball at Seth.com. He also was a surprising starter for the 1st game of the series. He was chased out early after a fluke home run by Mel Ott. Don't know why he didn't pitch again in the 5 game series. They probably needed a starter for game 6, if necessary. He has two card in the set. I guess it helped to be a Senator or a Giant.

>>

Great story RB

Did your uncle leave you anything? Pics? Programs?

mike

RiskyBusiness · July 19, 2006 1:02PM

No, but I've bought some stuff on ebay like programs and pictures. They were great presents for my dad. I didn't know Buck very well. He did, however, practically raise my father after his dad died. He was a good player, not great. Once won 20 games and I think he also lost 19 one year for the hapless Browns. He was a control pitcher who also gave up a lot of home runs.

I was minding my own business when a friend found a Goudey card for me and introduced me to collecting. He is the top dog on the PSA list for 1955 Topps. I really can't play in his league, but I'm trying to collect as many quality cards as possible. Guess the Ruth and Gehrig cards will have to wait a while.

blindflyer · July 19, 2006 3:37PM

Welcome RiskyBiz ... I just got back into collecting after a 20 year layoff (I started stopped I was around 14 yrs old) and am trying to complete the '60 Topps set. Enjoy the journey... you'll find it's peaceful and a lot of fun .... and, there's some great guys on this board. It's a really cool community.

Griffins · July 19, 2006 4:30PM

He won 100 games, thats not too bad.

No one has sponsored his page on baseball-reference.com
Might be a good gift idea for your dad, he can write a message in there. Tough to go wrong for $10.
Lefty Stewart

KansasJayhawk · July 19, 2006 4:45PM

In a nutshell the card was a "chase card" for the Goudey company, at the end of 33 season all the folks that were collecting noticed there was no 106 card, they complained to the Goudey Co. The company then decided to print the card with the 34 run and mail it out to all collectors that sent in wrappers for the card....thus the modern day rarity of the card. Why Nap L.? Do not know that answer, but they definatley picked a great player to feature, even though long retired from the game. Most all collectors consider the 33 set "complete" w/o the Nap L. #106 card.

It is also cool that your great uncle is in the set!

RiskyBusiness · July 23, 2006 3:03AM

Do you guys recommend waiting and purchasing the grade of card you want or buyng a PSA 4 and trading up when you have the opportunity?

I can see it both ways. I'll buy a lesser grade card right now and then upgrade after my set is more established. I'm hoping the lower graded cards will appreciate some, lowering the cost of the better card when I can upgrade. I also understand that the lower graded cards will not appreciate like the better graded cards.

I guess it comes down to if you just want the cards or you want quality.

What say the collectors?

jimq112 · July 23, 2006 4:45AM

I'm a collector and I'll buy the offgrade (at the offgrade price) of a desirable card, figuring I'll get most of my $ back if I can upgrade later.

I bought 60 or so cards of the 59 fleer ted williams from a member here, they weren't perfect but they're nice and good enough for now. If I need to upgrade later somebody will be glad to have these ones. If I don't feel the need to upgrade then I have these ones to look at. Either way I win.

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