HOLY CRAP! PCGS has already graded 383 MS70 Gold Buffalos!

Russ · July 16, 2006 3:42AM

Damn, that has to be some kind of record!!!

Russ, NCNE

MadMarty · July 16, 2006 3:48AM

Russ, you are obsessing on the GBs!!!!

wondercoin · July 16, 2006 3:52AM

Russ: Wasn't PCGS around a 5% grade through rate for MS70 Buffalos? Unless I am mistaken, last I noticed, NGC was around a 70% graded MS70 Buffalos and around 30% MS69's, but that was more than a week ago, so that figure may have changed. If anyone has the MS69 and MS70 Buffalo figures for the (2) companies, I would be interested in comparing them.

Wondercoin

UncleWiggly · July 16, 2006 3:53AM

I like when Russ posts about GBs though. We get another look at his neat 2 center. Think a 1000 GBs exixit that will/could be graded MS70 by PCGS?

Jerry

mikeJ · July 16, 2006 3:54AM

Another buffalo post

ledzep87 · July 16, 2006 3:56AM

I am starting to think that Russ REALLY wants some GBs.

CoinResource · July 16, 2006 4:03AM

RUSS! Not another gold buffalo post!

ledzep87 · July 16, 2006 4:06AM

What would happen if Russ converted from JFKs to............*whispering Gold Buffalos*? SSSSHHHHH!! Don't draw any attention.

aficionado · July 16, 2006 4:07AM

I've seen three NGC MS70's and I would not have graded them MS70.

This is just my opinion, but if you buy a NGC MS70 and are expecting a perfect coin, your going to be disappointed.

As for 383, just think of all the coins sent in. It had to be thousands. The MS69 pop is 7820. So 5% of the coins graded 69 or higher are 70. Then put in all the ones to beat up to be sent in or were 68's or lower. AND there had to be a LARGE influx of coins that will certainly diminish. 383 at this point might be pretty low.

Russ · July 16, 2006 4:10AM

<< but if you buy a NGC MS70 and are expecting a perfect coin, your going to be disappointed. >>

Same thing is true of many PCGS MS70's.

Russ, NCNE

JRocco · July 16, 2006 4:12AM

Russ Russ Russ

robertpr · July 16, 2006 4:13AM

larrynj · July 16, 2006 4:20AM

what is this "gold buffalo" to which you all refer?

relayer · July 16, 2006 4:23AM

That's almost as many as there are threads about the Gold Buffalos.

Russ · July 16, 2006 4:35AM

Oh, and out of over 8000 graded, so far none have graded lower than MS69.

Russ, NCNE

Petarded · July 16, 2006 4:39AM

I think Russ has a secret stash of Gold Buff's and just doesnt want to admit it!

agentjim007 · July 16, 2006 4:39AM

what's 383 X 5600 ?

ledzep87 · July 16, 2006 4:40AM

<< I think Russ has a secret stash of Gold Buff's and just doesnt want to admit it! >>

You may have a point.

foodude · July 16, 2006 4:52AM

Oh, and out of over 8000 graded, so far none have graded lower than MS69.

How long until the first PR01

edited to add, or PO01

ABC123 · July 16, 2006 4:52AM

How many PF70 DCAM to date ?

Russ · July 16, 2006 4:56AM

<< How many PF70 DCAM to date ? >>

Two out of 10 graded. That'll go up tomorrow.

Russ, NCNE

wondercoin · July 16, 2006 4:57AM

Non-FS Buffalo PR70DC

I see this coin just hit ebay - a non-FS example that was picked up at the Baltimore show it appears.

Wondercoin.

Russ · July 16, 2006 5:02AM

That one is so fresh, the cert number isn't even in the database. That means it's at least #3.

Russ, NCNE

robertpr · July 16, 2006 5:06AM

<< Non-FS Buffalo PR70DC

I see this coin just hit ebay - a non-FS example that was picked up at the Baltimore show it appears.

Wondercoin. >>

Hmm, odd. The cert no. is not in the database and PCGS seems to have used the mint state coin number on the flip. Doctored photo? Yes?

Russ · July 16, 2006 5:08AM

<< The cert no. is not in the database and PCGS seems to have used the mint state coin number on the flip. Doctored photo? Yes? >>

It's freshly show graded. The database won't be updated until they get back. The number on the insert is the number for the non FS coins.

Edited to add: It looks like PCGS has the database screwed up as that number should be for the proofs.

Russ, NCNE

robertpr · July 16, 2006 5:10AM

Russ, the numbers that I know are:

MS - 9999
MS First Strike - 89999
PR - ?????
PR First Strike - 99990

Russ · July 16, 2006 5:12AM

Okay, that's starting to make sense. Maybe thay haven't assigned a number for the non FS proofs yet?

Russ, NCNE

Russ · July 16, 2006 5:14AM

Or, maybe the show graders didn't have the numbers available? Or, got mixed up?

Russ, NCNE

robertpr · July 16, 2006 5:19AM

I'm guessing that it will be 99999 and that it will show up tomorrow when the pop report is updated.

Anyway, here's the breakdown:

9999 - Mint State pop report is showing one graded VG/VF and that's it.
89999 - Mint State First Strike 4.669% are MS70
99990 - Proof First Strike - 8 in 69 and 2 in PR70 (20% graded 70)

braddick · July 16, 2006 5:23AM

<< Oh, and out of over 8000 graded, so far none have graded lower than MS69. Russ, NCNE >>

I would love to own one of these in AG03!

Russ · July 16, 2006 5:23AM

<< Mint State pop report is showing one graded VG/VF >>

That has to be a screwup.

Russ, NCNE

dpoole · July 16, 2006 5:28AM

This PCGS PR70DCAM sold for $161.00.

Apparently they're pretty common.

braddick · July 16, 2006 5:31AM

<< This PCGS PR70DCAM sold for $161.00. Apparently they're pretty common.

>>

Check out that guy's feedback! See anything strange??

Russ · July 16, 2006 5:33AM

Apparently the bidders - most anyway - figured out that one was a scam.

Russ, NCNE

robertpr · July 16, 2006 5:33AM

<< 

<< This PCGS PR70DCAM sold for $161.00. Apparently they're pretty common.

>>

<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=hgh48965&iid=170008701056&ssPageName=VIP:feedback:2:us" target=blank>Check out that guy's feedback!</A> See anything strange?? >>

BAJJERFAN · July 16, 2006 5:41AM

All 10 feedbacks posted TODAY from seller's with 0 fb themselves!! HMMM

Shamika · July 16, 2006 5:43AM

<< Oh, and out of over 8000 graded, so far none have graded lower than MS69. >>

Well this is a big surprise!

I suspect if all 383 MS70 Gold Buffalos were cracked out and resubmitted, most of them would come back 69.

Kip · July 16, 2006 5:48AM

Isn't it still just a 1 oz bullion coin? Won't the Mint just keep churning them out like the AE?
Why all the hype?
Curious mind wants to know.
Kip

topstuf · July 16, 2006 5:54AM

What happens if "AH" evolves into..... "ACCENTED HUMP?"

Huh? What then????

dpoole · July 16, 2006 5:59AM

<< << This PCGS PR70DCAM sold for $161.00. Apparently they're pretty common. >>

Check out that guy's feedback! See anything strange?? >>

Apparently he's an honorable Ebay seller with a perfect rating, who suddenly and mysteriously died in a fire.

robertpr · July 16, 2006 6:24AM

Wow, seller has been NARU'd already. That's a record!

HOLY CRAP! PCGS has already graded 383 MS70 Gold Buffalos!

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