Image study analysis and feedback please: Battle Creek Morgan

dizzyfoxx

Please, any and all input will be greatly appreciated... The following are a group of images of my BC Morgan.
The final image at the bottom (with the reverse) is the 'closest' to reality so far, but still not there.
The others are different image examples, each of which are accurate in their own way.
This is a very difficult coin to capture 100% accurately in an image.
Based on the last image at the bottom (with the reverse), any input would be greatly appreciated.
I'm using a Nikon D70 camera with a 60mm macro lens.
Thanks!

mfcobra

The 3rd coin looks best to me. And the colors are really nice!

TomB

If the bottom image is most accurate, then I think the second image is the outlier and appears to have had significant post-image acquisition manipulation.

AceK

Beautiful toner! I don't see any "image manipulation", I see the tone changing depending on the lighting. There seems to be a yellowish cast to the light on that last image - is there possibly a white balance issue there? Good efforts, keep at it, I'm just beginning to appreciate how difficult accurate imaging is . . . .

CoinResource

You need to play with setting "white balance" -- read up on it for your camera and consider using a manual setting. Also always use the same type of light at once (meaning all incandescent or all daylight). Finally, find the light source that most reasily gets you close to true tone.

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>Beautiful toner! I don't see any "image manipulation", I see the tone changing depending on the lighting. There seems to be a yellowish cast to the light on that last image - is there possibly a white balance issue there? Good efforts, keep at it, I'm just beginning to appreciate how difficult accurate imaging is . . . . >>



I have removed the image Tom was referring to.

TomB

Since DF removed the image I had written about, I will have to post it myself. It is below.

AceK

You're right, that baby looks juiced!

dizzyfoxx

Here you go Tom, you didn't have to go through all that trouble, all you had to do is ask.

This image portrays the coin under certain lighting and at certain angles, it is such an amazing coin with intense color and PL surfaces.

What I'm looking for and what I requested in my thread, was based on the last image with the reverse, can I get some constructive feedback on what I might be doing wrong as far as 'white balance' etc. This should be able to be determined by the reverse which is nice and lustrous white with PL surfaces.

morgannut2

I'd send the coin to Mikey's wife, Island coins or the Airplanenut--- then get their settings and film type to use in future.
These are hard to judge because the coins wre unnatuarally vibrant compare to the usual NT toner.

AceK

You should be able to customize white balance to adjust for the light source. This typically involves placing a white object (e.g., a piece of paper) where the coin would be, finding the appropriate menu setting for customizing white balance, then taking a picture of the white object. The camera will then set the appropriate white balance based on your lighting. The manual should describe this process in more detail.

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>You should be able to customize white balance to adjust for the light source. This typically involves placing a white object (e.g., a piece of paper) where the coin would be, finding the appropriate menu setting for customizing white balance, then taking a picture of the white object. The camera will then set the appropriate white balance based on your lighting. The manual should describe this process in more detail. >>



That's part of the problem, I can't find my manual.

TomB

You're using a Nikon D70 with 60mm macro lens, this is exactly the set up that I use. Ask me what you need to know, either here or in a series of private messages, and I will help you. By the way, here is an image taken with this set up and absolutely no manipulation that has resulted in an accurate image-

AceK

Here you go: D70 User's Manual Download

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>You're using a Nikon D70 with 60mm macro lens, this is exactly the set up that I use. Ask me what you need to know, either here or in a series of private messages, and I will help you. By the way, here is an image taken with this set up and absolutely no manipulation that has resulted in an accurate image-
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Thanks Tom.
I'll PM you later today.

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>Here you go: D70 User's Manual Download >>



Thanks AceK

JJM

Dizzy, I really like this one,....it doesnt look like this ?

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>Dizzy, I really like this one,....it doesnt look like this ?

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It does, at certain angles and lighting. Here's my latest image with white balance adjusted differently and more accurately...
Man oh man this is a difficult coin to image... I do love a challenge though.

MikeKing

<< <i>I'd send the coin to Mikey's wife, Island coins or the Airplanenut--- then get their settings and film type to use in future.
These are hard to judge because the coins wre unnatuarally vibrant compare to the usual NT toner. >>



third party imaging...it's all the rage!!!

MrSpud

Getting pretty fancy with the camera there . Those truly irredescent coins that change color as you tilt them in different angles to the light probably need a movie camera with the coin moving to truly capture them!