1807 newp Capped Bust Half......In hand pics added & grade revealed

cmanbb

Finally found an 1807 Large Stars Variety...................PCGS??




My pictures...................the selles pics are a whole lot darker than the coin in hand. This VF20 is a nice example, and welcomed to the collection of 1807's I have accumulated thus far.

Any more out there??

rhedden

I'll say PCGS VF-35, but it could be XF-40 because the strike on the hair curls is frequently mushy for the O-114. I do like the color and overall look of the coin.

Cladiator

Damn nice coin sir, damn nice. The eye appeal factor is off the charts with this coin. I'd grade the coin XF45 easily. What really stands out to me are the obverse stars and how well defined they are. Also, on the reverse the motto banner is very solid and the shield is scrumptious.

One can look for quite a long time before finding such a nice example as this. Congrats.


Edited to change my grade from XF40 to XF45 after taking some more time to look at the coin.

braddick

Outstanding! I love too the way the 50 is so far apart from C on the reverse.
Is that a variety for this year or were they all like that in 1807?

LonerAnger

Nice.

slumlord98

On my monitor, it looks slightly granular, with old gray surfaces, nice reverse strike, obverse seems a bit soft, I'm going to guess 35. The stars always show good definition, and this is no exception. I like it.

stman

The 1807 Turban O-114 in my experience on the examples I own, and have seen..... seem to usually come with the stars struck up very nice as well as the left wing facing on the reverse. This coin posted seems to go along with my thoughts. Easily attributed with the lump under the seven in date, as well as lump at star 11 near the rim.

I've seen both services over-grade these as well as under-grade them. Sometimes they seem to try and compensate thinking they all come with weak strikes, sometimes not. Wear on wings seems fairly even.

CoinAddict

Absolutely gorgeous original bustie. Very nice addition to you collection. I would say she is a VF-35 but with a coin like this the grade doesn't matter.

JRocco

Nice coin. I see a solid 35 and 40 on a decent day 3 times out of ten. But that being said- PCGS as well as the other plastic companies do not grade bust halves with any semblance of consistency- so who knows what PCGS calls it this time. Next time they grade her-????

wam98

Very nice 1807 half.

mozin

My guess is PCGS gave it VF25. I also note the granular look. Darn hard marriage to find, especially in PCGS holder.

Myqqy

I would guess vf35- super nice eye appeal!

ABC123

Very Strong !

AZLARRY

I like the look of that O-114, nice even wear. Nicely struck for an 1807, the LIBERTY, dentils, and stars are very sharp.

coinbuf

A very nice problem free example, great color and surfaces. A keeper for sure.

Chris

cmanbb

<< <i>The 1807 Turban O-114 in my experience on the examples I own, and have seen..... seem to usually come with the stars struck up very nice as well as the left wing facing on the reverse. This coin posted seems to go along with my thoughts. >>


stman,
Thanks for the educational comment.
I wonder what had happened at the mint to make the last variety (O-114) a better strike than the previous varieties.
Was it better annealing process of the planchets? Or could it be that there a so few of these O-114, that the dies were relatively fresh at the time of minting them toward the end of the year, hence the better than average strikes for this particular variety? If they could only talk.



<< <i>The stars always show good definition, and this is no exception. >>


slumlord98,
any facts as to why this is so on the O-114?

I will post other pics and grade when coin is in hand

mozin

<< <i>
I wonder what had happened at the mint to make the last variety (O-114) a better strike than the previous varieties.
Was it better annealing process of the planchets? Or could it be that there a so few of these O-114, that the dies were relatively fresh at the time of minting them toward the end of the year, hence the better than average strikes for this particular variety? If they could only talk. >>


Actually the emission sequence for the 1807 CBHs was O-113 small stars, O-114 large stars, O-111 bearded, and lastly O-112 50/inverted 5.

greghansen

Very, VERY nice. I like the XF40 number.

cmanbb

PCGS VF20

mozin

<< <i>PCGS VF20 >>

So, my PCGS VF25 guess was the closest.

MikeKing

came in late in the game but a very nice very fine, and a scarce variety to boot!!!