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Whatever you do... don't say "CASH"

While this might not be new news to all, it certainly is new to me. Ebay just ended one of my auctions early because it states that one form of payment I accept is "Cash"
Yep, that's right... according to Ebay's new rules, if you ask a buyer to send you a cash payment you're violating thier security policies!!!!
Here's the kicker... I use the same tempate for just about all of my auctions. I still have 20 additional auctions listed, and they ALL say CASH in the accepted forms of
payment accepted... Ebay didn't pull those! Hmmmmmm... I've used this same template now for years, not sure why all of the sudden Ebay feels the need
to randomly dictate policy all of the sudden.

I'm changing my tempate and removing the word Cash... and hoping Ebay doesn't pull the rest of my auctions.
Then again... if Ebay pulled every auction that stated cash as a form of payment, there would be a LOT less auctions on right now!

ALWAYS Looking for Chris Sabo cards!

Comments

  • FYSFYS Posts: 194
    eBay only pulls an auction if someone reports you. So the self proclaimed watcher of bad deeds did not see or chose not to report your other auctions.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Probably someone who was scolded for doing the same thing,
    randomly found your auction and decided to rat you out.

    I think "cash" was on the "prohibited payment list" b4 the
    new list came out last month, but I have no copies of the
    old lists to confirm that.

    If you only have less than two-dozen going on, you might
    want to decide if it is easier to strike "cash" from each one
    manually than it is to risk getting them all pulled.

    eBay wants to make it as hard as possible to use any form
    of payment other than PayPal.

    storm
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    I would change your listing to say you only accept PayPal, sexual favors, or crack cocaine as payment. See how long it takes for them to catch that! image
  • Am I in the bizarro world? WTF is wrong with cash...
  • onefasttalononefasttalon Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭
    I can only change what doesn't have bids already... I'm going to change my template to say:
    "Accepted forms of payment include - Paypal, M/O, or head"

    cornholio.... you're reading this right... you are not allowed to have "cash" as a written form of acceptable payment.

    ALWAYS Looking for Chris Sabo cards!

  • SoutherncardsSoutherncards Posts: 1,384 ✭✭
    I have been on ebay since June of 1998 and have a 100% feedback. I have always listed cash, checks and money orders as acceptable payment and I have never been questioned. I will continue to do so.

    maybe I could say "change equaling the correct dollar amount" and that would satisfy them.
  • I'm not sure why any seller with common sense would want to accept cash in the first place? Sounds like trouble to me especially if the payment really does get stolen or lost in the mail. I'm glad ebay is cracking down and finally enforcing theis rule.
    Rich
  • royalbrettroyalbrett Posts: 620 ✭✭✭
    I added the term "cold hard you know what" to one of my recent auctions.

    I'm assuming people knew what I meant. image
    Yeah, I uploaded that KC icon in 2001
  • onefasttalononefasttalon Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭
    Jesus Rich... didn't take ya long. Still haven't found a new calling in life yet? Maybe if I had good ol' fashion HORSE sense, I wouldn't
    want to take cash in the form of payment. Ya, because the buyer might try to rip me off if he sends me cash! That just doesn't make
    sense at all! Maybe it's because I don't sell to my immed. family, therefore 95% of my customers are out to rip me off? Or... maybe it's
    the fact that I have neighbors and don't live in the middle of the woods? How are those recipies for pinecones and badger balls coming Rich?

    Get lost you retard.

    ALWAYS Looking for Chris Sabo cards!

  • You're the one accepting cash via the mail, and you call me the retard!
    Look in the mirror buddy!
    Rich
  • They only pulled one auction, to send the message. Let you change the other auctions manually. After all, they still want your FVF's. image

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  • Sabo dude:
    Anytime I disagree with something, I'll explain exactly why (just like in this case). However, when you disagree or don't like what I have to say, all you do is call people names. Once again, why would you want to accept cash? I already explained that in my book it isn't smart for a seller to accept cash because if the payment does get lost in the mail or stolen it would be impossible to trace.
    Rich


  • << <i>I'm not sure why any seller with common sense would want to accept cash in the first place? >>



    You're right. It's common sense to desire to pay paypal commissions or to drive to the bank to deposit checks and wait 2 weeks for them to clear.

    I've never seen anyone want solely cash as the payment method so no one is "pressured" to pay that way... hell even if cash was the only payment method no one is forcing them to bid. Say you win an item for $5 and the seller doesn't take paypal. Are you going to drive to the post office to buy a MO, or write a check and wait an extra week? It's common sense to not want to do either of those...



    << <i>Sounds like trouble to me especially if the payment really does get stolen or lost in the mail. I'm glad ebay is cracking down and finally enforcing theis rule. >>



    It's not ebay "cracking down" finding these auctions, it's some moron with too much time on his hands tattle-tailing.

    I report 3-5 auctions a week that are fraudulent - maybe 1 in 10 gets pulled, yet they "enforce" this. Money talks...
  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭
    What's with this board?

    Someone PM'ed me the other day just to call me an idiot and a retard.image
  • SoutherncardsSoutherncards Posts: 1,384 ✭✭
    I always add the line that cash is sent at buyer's risk. You can tell by my 100% feedback that I've never had a problem.
  • cornholio:
    I'll never sell an item for under $15 becuase anything under that isn't worth the time it takes me to list, package, and ship an item. However, even if I did sell items for under $15, there would be no way in heck I would want a buyer to pay me via cash because I'm not going to set myself up for a problem if one should occur (with regard to not receiving the payment).
    To each is own I guess, but in my opinion accepting cash thru the mail isn't very smart.
    Rich
  • That rule went into effect in February. Cash is no longer a Ebay approved payment form. They can still send cash a seller just cannot offer it as a choice.

    From Ebay:

    Policy
    Permitted on eBay.com: Sellers may offer to accept PayPal, credit cards including MasterCard/Visa /Amex/Discover, debit cards and bank electronic payments online for eBay purchases. Sellers may also offer to accept bank-to-bank transfers, often known as bank wire transfers or bank cash transfers. Sellers may accept COD (cash on delivery) or cash for in person transactions. Sellers may offer to accept personal checks, money orders, cashier's checks, certified checks and other negotiable instruments. Please see the "Some Examples" section of this policy for those evaluated payment services permitted in the eBay marketplace.

    Not permitted on eBay.com: <b>Sellers may not solicit buyers to mail cash</b>. Sellers may not ask buyers to send cash through instant cash transfer services (non-bank, point-to-point cash transfers) such as Western Union or Moneygram. Sellers may not solicit payment through "topping off" of a seller's pre-paid credit or debit card. Finally, sellers may not request payment through online payment methods not specifically permitted in this policy. Please see the "Some Examples" section of this policy for those evaluated payment services not permitted in the eBay marketplace.

    Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions including:

    Listing cancellation

    Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings

    Listing cancellation

    Limits on account privileges

    Loss of PowerSeller status

    Account suspension

    Link
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    I have never paid by cash, but when I used to take
    "paper-payments," some folks would send me cash
    for small purchases. None of the money ever went
    poof.

    eBay knows that some folks who get paid in cash,
    will squander that cash b4 it is time to pay eBay
    its monthly stipend. eBay cannot afford to have
    a bunch of deadbeat sellers ruining things.

    storm image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Taking cash also leads into that situation I was in a couple of weeks ago. Where the buyer insists he sent payment by cash, but I never got it. He has no proof he ever sent it and I do not have any proof I ever recieved it.
  • Wizard:
    Thanks for the perfect example!
    This is exactly why I will not accept cash as a seller, and never pay with cash as a buyer.
    Rich
  • LOL, I am still waiting for him to show up here to kick my butt like he said he was going to.
  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    Isn't it true that eBay owns Paypal? That might help explain some of it...
    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
  • Isn't it true that eBay owns Paypal? That might help explain some of it...

    Yes they do, but that has nothing to do with the cash thing. I guess I need to dig up the old thread about my problem with a buyer who says he sent cash. The problem with cash is simple there is no way to track it.


  • << <i>cornholio:
    I'll never sell an item for under $15 becuase anything under that isn't worth the time it takes me to list, package, and ship an item. However, even if I did sell items for under $15, there would be no way in heck I would want a buyer to pay me via cash because I'm not going to set myself up for a problem if one should occur (with regard to not receiving the payment).
    To each is own I guess, but in my opinion accepting cash thru the mail isn't very smart.
    Rich >>



    I usually don't sell stuff <$50 for the same reason. The point of my example was not that cash is the best way to sent payment, but it does make practical sense on low dollar transactions. Obviously anyone would “change their tune” if they got negged because someone sent a cash payment that was lost in the mail - I agree with you there.

    The bigger picture however, is that ebay is becoming more and more fascist. Soon, I imagine, the ONLY payment method will be paypal to ensure they get a larger cut of every single transaction.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Soon, I imagine, the ONLY payment method will be paypal to ensure
    they get a larger cut of every single transaction."

    ///////////////////////////////////////

    Depend on it. And, SOON. Meg says it would make
    "for a safer experience."

    storm image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • If Ebay makes it to where Paypal is the only method they will then be in violation of several anti-trust laws. The moment they force a type of payment on you they will lose their venue only status. The cannot stop you from taking cash, you just cannot solicit it. Just like they cannot stop you from other methods, you just cannot mention it.

    Try listing Western Union in your listing, unless they have changed it recently you will not even be able to mention it and still list the item.
  • If that happened, I believe there would be some serious litigation.

    Ebay claims it is nothing more than a marketplace that links buyers and sellers. This is an attempt to protect themselves since they facilitate fraud everyday. But now that they’re proactively eliminating many payment methods they cannot take a rake of, it’s becoming clear that they view themselves as way more than just a marketplace.
  • cornholio:
    As far as I'm concerned, if sellers don't like the rules they should not play the game (don't use ebay) or change their stategy (don't buy or sell stuff that are under $15). On a side note, I'm glad to see someone who uses the time is money theory with regard to selling (it just amazes me to see auctions end at 99 cents).
    Rich
  • Sabo dude:
    Everytime you shoot off your mouth, you seem to disappear very quickly once I start discussing or debating. In the future, it may be wise to not start a topic if you are not comfortable in hearing comments, opinions, or discussion with regard to your topic. On a side note, baseball cards and memorabilia are not my calling but instead a hobby and stress relief method. If you would read and digest what you do read, you would already know what my calling is.
    Rich
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭
    As a seller i think it's okay to accept cash. As a buyer I think it would be stupid to pay by cash.
  • early:
    Do you understand that a seller not accepting cash is in fact protecting himself just in case the payment gets lost or stolen? If so and you're willing to risk a buyer thinking that you're a liar without the chance of proving him different......then fine. Look at Wizards example.
    Rich
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭
    having bought/sold over 2k items on/off ebay and only having one lost item in the mail - i guess i have too much faith in the usps system. my last psa order with a good bit of value was sent first class mail with no insurance/no tracking. arrived safely in 1 day.
  • Its not so much that the item gets lost, but cash can easily be stolen in transit. I had a buyer pay with 13.00 in cash one time. The item got ripped open. The cash was in the body bag along with the remains of the envelope. All of it was accounted for. Had one dishonest postal employee gotten ahold of it all I would have gotten was the empty envelope.

    If a buyer sends a MO or check he can prove the item was cashed and usually at what bank or who cashed it. Cash has no tracking. A seller who takes it sets him up to be called a liar and everything else if it does not arrive, but bottom line is the buyer has no proof you ever got it nor do you have any proof you did not get it.
  • Exactly Wizard! This is exactly what I'm talking about.
    Rich
  • Or in my case have the buyer threaten to have a little "physical interaction"
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