Collecting; Mark Mulder rookies Chipper Jones rookies Orlando Cabrera rookies Lawrence Taylor Sam Huff Lavar Arrington NY Giants NY Yankees NJ Nets NJ Devils 1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
Just think of all the great vintage cards you could buy with that kind of money. I would not care if that card was 1 of 1, I would much rather have a Gehrig, Ruth, Mantle etc., etc.. Just plain stupid.
<< <i>jeff, i had to put in a bid. i looked at the bidding and figured that i wouldn't pass the reserve. (Thank God) or it would be a quick cancellation.
there is no way in H*ll that i want that card!
fjm >>
dang, and i was tracking it & everything....i even got a extra bag of Doritos & a six-pack for the show....oh well, guess i'll go back to cheering you on for stuff that is actually worth a sh*t....thanks for letting me down easy, though
I could basically get every NY Giants significant rookie card AND autograph since the inception of the team. Not to mention, those rookies would be multiples many times over.
Collecting; Mark Mulder rookies Chipper Jones rookies Orlando Cabrera rookies Lawrence Taylor Sam Huff Lavar Arrington NY Giants NY Yankees NJ Nets NJ Devils 1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
what is even more amazing about this is the fact that there seem to be at least a dozen people stupid enough to bid and with three days left, who knows how many more.
Mark B.
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
I am more than sure PSA doesn't have a holder for that. I have had a few subs that came back that were thinner than this card. I would bid on the card but its $30 for overnight shipping. Any know anyone bidding?
<< <i>I am more than sure PSA doesn't have a holder for that. I have had a few subs that came back that were thinner than this card. I would bid on the card but its $30 for overnight shipping. Any know anyone bidding? >>
Didn't someone post that PSA is working on a holder to accomodate the thicker cards?
Collecting; Mark Mulder rookies Chipper Jones rookies Orlando Cabrera rookies Lawrence Taylor Sam Huff Lavar Arrington NY Giants NY Yankees NJ Nets NJ Devils 1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
The price is kind of ridiculous, but not if you realize that packs were $500 and they sold out fairly quickly. One of the best cards you can pull out of a $500 should be that expensive. It's the same as pulling a $400 card out of a $10 pack. If you can't get a crazy expensive card, then why would anybody ever buy the $500 pack? I mean let's face it, if you're willing to drop $500 on a pack of 3 modern cards, then you're gambling. This guy was one of the few winners.
Let me add that I think it's ridiculous that his reserve is over $17,000. Then again, if I pulled it I would have sold it a long time ago for a lot less money, so maybe this schmoe has a clue what he's doing.
people pay large sums of money for the following: large expanses of dirt and tumbleweeds (developers) rocks (gem collectors) pieces of metal (coin collectors) rare pictures of millionaires with signatures (rabid dogs, oops did i say that?)
the beauty of it is that these people can somehow convince other people to pay MORE money for these very same items....now, that's rare!
We all spend a lot of money on items that could be worthless in 50 years, and items that the general public would think we are nuts for buying. So I dont think this guy is crazier than any of us. Just has more money to blow. When you think about it, our collections just sit there doing nothing, much like this wade does... John
<< <i>The price is kind of ridiculous, but not if you realize that packs were $500 and they sold out fairly quickly. One of the best cards you can pull out of a $500 should be that expensive. It's the same as pulling a $400 card out of a $10 pack. If you can't get a crazy expensive card, then why would anybody ever buy the $500 pack? I mean let's face it, if you're willing to drop $500 on a pack of 3 modern cards, then you're gambling. This guy was one of the few winners.
Lee >>
I can't argue with that logic.
Nonetheless, how much of the card's value is derived from the fact that the packs were expensive? If the packs retailed for $50, would the value of this card be reduced? (my guess is yes, but not by a factor of 10).
I'm always amused when high end graded card collectors pooh-pooh whatever new bit of insanity has seized the modern market. You think paying $20K for this card is stupid? How about paying 5K more for one 71 Munson over another because one of them exhibits less wear under magnification. For Christ's sake, at least this card has an autograph.
corn, It's more about perceived value than anything else. Since packs were $500, people who bought those packs and got squat perceive a card like this to be the golden ticket. Card values are usually directly related to the msrp for unopened product. Even 10 years later the same holds true with most products. Example: 93 SP Football RC's are more valuable than any other set, and it was the most expensive per pack that year. '87 Fleer was the most expensive baseball product that year. There are tons of other examples. Obviously this isn't always true as actual scarcity and player selection factor into the equation as well, but the year a product is released, it's initial price per pack/box lingers in the mind of the market.
Would I rather have this 1/3 Dwyane Wade auto than one coming out of another product? Not really- there's only 3 in the world regardless. But that's not how the market thinks.
<< <i>If I draw up a custom card and get a star BKB player to sign it as a 1/1, will someone pay me $20k for it? >>
Good question. If I trim a '57 Mantle and get a major TPG company to put it in a plastic case with the words 'gem mint' written on the top of it, will someone pay me 20K for that?
When it comes to this hobby neither the vintage nor modern collectors have a monopoly on insanity.
<< <i>What's the matter with these people? Instead of buying a modern card, they should be spending their money on this card instead! It's only $6,400!!
Everybody's heard of Roy Bell, right?
He hit 46 home runs in his 7 major league seasons and almost drove in 440 runs in that time span! >>
Sorry, but I'm saving my money for the next '67 Speedy Duncan PSA 8! Sure, there are probably 100 of these in nm-mt condition floating around, but hey-- only 4 have been graded so far!
<< <i>What's the matter with these people? Instead of buying a modern card, they should be spending their money on this card instead! It's only $6,400!!
Everybody's heard of Roy Bell, right?
He hit 46 home runs in his 7 major league seasons and almost drove in 440 runs in that time span! >>
If you are going to go up agaist DES you are going to have to pay that much. A least the Roy Bell card is not a manufactured rarity.
<< <i>What's the matter with these people? Instead of buying a modern card, they should be spending their money on this card instead! It's only $6,400!!
Everybody's heard of Roy Bell, right?
He hit 46 home runs in his 7 major league seasons and almost drove in 440 runs in that time span! >>
If you are going to go up agaist DES you are going to have to pay that much. A least the Roy Bell card is not a manufactured rarity. >>
So that's a good reason to pay $6,400 for a card of a person noone has ever heard of?
Better watch what you say or you might find someone who will argue that a PSA 9 is also a manufactured rarity. But I'd never do that.
Comments
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
Mark Mulder rookies
Chipper Jones rookies
Orlando Cabrera rookies
Lawrence Taylor
Sam Huff
Lavar Arrington
NY Giants
NY Yankees
NJ Nets
NJ Devils
1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
Looking for Topps rookies as well.
References:
GregM13
VintageJeff
<< <i>what are you guys talking about it is RARE and EXQUISITE. you can't beat that! >>
holy sh*t Czar, you're on that? Good luck!!
i had to put in a bid. i looked at the bidding and figured that i wouldn't pass the reserve. (Thank God) or it would be a quick cancellation.
there is no way in H*ll that i want that card!
fjm
Ed
A 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 7 or that
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>jeff,
i had to put in a bid. i looked at the bidding and figured that i wouldn't pass the reserve. (Thank God) or it would be a quick cancellation.
there is no way in H*ll that i want that card!
fjm >>
dang, and i was tracking it & everything....i even got a extra bag of Doritos & a six-pack for the show....oh well, guess i'll go back to cheering you on for stuff that is actually worth a sh*t....thanks for letting me down easy, though
<< <i>What is a reserve? >>
The lowest amount that the seller will take..
1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better
Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete
Does PSA have a holder that will house it?
storm
<< <i>That card looks VERY thick.
Does PSA have a holder that will house it?
storm >>
Anyone with enough money to blow on that card should just buy PSA and make a holder thick enough.
-- Yogi Berra
Damn, I could have an entire PSA 9 set of 1972 topps football for this price. NUTZ
<< <i>What is a reserve? >>
Exactly.
It's not a bad card - I like that there's plenty of room for his impeccably written sig.
That kind of money could keep me in booze and hookers for months!
must be a very important card.
<eyeroll>
Steve
Mark Mulder rookies
Chipper Jones rookies
Orlando Cabrera rookies
Lawrence Taylor
Sam Huff
Lavar Arrington
NY Giants
NY Yankees
NJ Nets
NJ Devils
1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
Looking for Topps rookies as well.
References:
GregM13
VintageJeff
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
My Sandberg topps basic set
My Sandberg Topps Master set
<< <i>I am more than sure PSA doesn't have a holder for that. I have had a few subs that came back that were thinner than this card. I would bid on the card but its $30 for overnight shipping. Any know anyone bidding? >>
Didn't someone post that PSA is working on a holder to accomodate the thicker cards?
mike
They're in same boat as the pack slabs.
Mark Mulder rookies
Chipper Jones rookies
Orlando Cabrera rookies
Lawrence Taylor
Sam Huff
Lavar Arrington
NY Giants
NY Yankees
NJ Nets
NJ Devils
1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards
Looking for Topps rookies as well.
References:
GregM13
VintageJeff
Lee
some could say he is a sucker and the eventual winner is even a bigger one.
however with that said who am i to decide what other people want to spend money on? if it makes them happy it makes me happy.
I'd prolly be very happy if I was the seller of that card though.
steve
Lee
<< <i>lee
some could say he is a sucker and the eventual winner is even a bigger one.
however with that said who am i to decide what other people want to spend money on? if it makes them happy it makes me happy.
I'd prolly be very happy if I was the seller of that card though.
steve >>
Me too Steve!
Then I would definitely be stocked with booze and hookers for the cold winter ahead!
large expanses of dirt and tumbleweeds (developers)
rocks (gem collectors)
pieces of metal (coin collectors)
rare pictures of millionaires with signatures (rabid dogs, oops did i say that?)
the beauty of it is that these people can somehow convince other people to pay MORE money for these very same items....now, that's rare!
John
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
My Sandberg topps basic set
My Sandberg Topps Master set
<< <i>almost 18k and the reserve is still not met?
must be a very important card.
<eyeroll>
Steve >>
If I rolled my eyes that far, I'd never get them back in my eye sockets. This is just flat out stupidity.
<< <i>The price is kind of ridiculous, but not if you realize that packs were $500 and they sold out fairly quickly. One of the best cards you can pull out of a $500 should be that expensive. It's the same as pulling a $400 card out of a $10 pack. If you can't get a crazy expensive card, then why would anybody ever buy the $500 pack? I mean let's face it, if you're willing to drop $500 on a pack of 3 modern cards, then you're gambling. This guy was one of the few winners.
Lee >>
I can't argue with that logic.
Nonetheless, how much of the card's value is derived from the fact that the packs were expensive? If the packs retailed for $50, would the value of this card be reduced? (my guess is yes, but not by a factor of 10).
71 Munson over another because one of them exhibits less wear under magnification. For Christ's sake, at least this card has an autograph.
It's more about perceived value than anything else. Since packs were $500, people who bought those packs and got squat perceive a card like this to be the golden ticket. Card values are usually directly related to the msrp for unopened product. Even 10 years later the same holds true with most products. Example: 93 SP Football RC's are more valuable than any other set, and it was the most expensive per pack that year. '87 Fleer was the most expensive baseball product that year. There are tons of other examples. Obviously this isn't always true as actual scarcity and player selection factor into the equation as well, but the year a product is released, it's initial price per pack/box lingers in the mind of the market.
Would I rather have this 1/3 Dwyane Wade auto than one coming out of another product? Not really- there's only 3 in the world regardless. But that's not how the market thinks.
Lee
I agree with boo. jeese that is 2x in one week now.
however I must add that the munson also has an autograph too.
Steve
Everybody's heard of Roy Bell, right?
He hit 46 home runs in his 7 major league seasons and almost drove in 440 runs in that time span!
GO MARLINS! Home of the best fans in baseball!!
<< <i>If I draw up a custom card and get a star BKB player to sign it as a 1/1, will someone pay me $20k for it? >>
Good question. If I trim a '57 Mantle and get a major TPG company to put it in a plastic case with the words 'gem mint' written on the top of it, will someone pay me 20K for that?
When it comes to this hobby neither the vintage nor modern collectors have a monopoly on insanity.
<< <i>71 Munson over another because one of them exhibits less wear under magnification. For Christ's sake, at least this card has an autograph.
I agree with boo. jeese that is 2x in one week now.
however I must add that the munson also has an autograph too.
Steve >>
LOL! You're right- I forgot about that sweet sig on the bottom of the card.
<< <i>What's the matter with these people? Instead of buying a modern card, they should be spending their money on this card instead! It's only $6,400!!
Everybody's heard of Roy Bell, right?
He hit 46 home runs in his 7 major league seasons and almost drove in 440 runs in that time span! >>
Sorry, but I'm saving my money for the next '67 Speedy Duncan PSA 8! Sure, there are probably 100 of these in nm-mt condition floating around, but hey-- only 4 have been graded so far!
<< <i>What's the matter with these people? Instead of buying a modern card, they should be spending their money on this card instead! It's only $6,400!!
Everybody's heard of Roy Bell, right?
He hit 46 home runs in his 7 major league seasons and almost drove in 440 runs in that time span! >>
If you are going to go up agaist DES you are going to have to pay that much. A least the Roy Bell card is not a manufactured rarity.
<< <i>
<< <i>What's the matter with these people? Instead of buying a modern card, they should be spending their money on this card instead! It's only $6,400!!
Everybody's heard of Roy Bell, right?
He hit 46 home runs in his 7 major league seasons and almost drove in 440 runs in that time span! >>
If you are going to go up agaist DES you are going to have to pay that much. A least the Roy Bell card is not a manufactured rarity. >>
So that's a good reason to pay $6,400 for a card of a person noone has ever heard of?
Better watch what you say or you might find someone who will argue that a PSA 9 is also a manufactured rarity. But I'd never do that.
GO MARLINS! Home of the best fans in baseball!!