Why my fantasy football team is the best...

bri2327

cuz I said so

zef204

ToppsCo1lector

I really like my squad, and I didn't even pick it!

perkdog

Well lets see the squad and pick it apart...

zef204

Here's mine:

1. (10) S. Jackson RB
2. (15) W. McGahee RB
3. (34) Ro. Williams WR
4. (39) D. McNabb QB
5. (58) T. Houshmandzadeh WR
6. (63) D. Culpepper QB
7. (82) A. Green RB
8. (87) K. McCardell WR
9. (106) R. McMichael TE
10. (111) T. Glenn WR
11. (130) B. Edwards WR
12. (135) S. Gado RB
13. (154) S. Graham K
14. (159) Cincinnati DEF
15. (178) M. Booker WR
16. (183) A. Lelie WR
17. (202) N. Davenport RB



here's toppscollectors:

1. (7) C. Portis
2. (18) T. Holt
3. (31) B. Westbrook
4. (42) W. Dunn
5. (55) E. Manning
6. (66) A. Crumpler
7. (79) D. Mason
8. (90) J. Elam
9. (103) Indianapolis
10. (114) L. Maroney
11. (127) B. Favre
12. (138) G. Jones
13. (151) B. Troupe
14. (162) A. Toomer
15. (175) J. Kasay
16. (186) Philadelphia
17. (199) B. Johnson


and here's bri's:

1. (5) T. Barber
2. (20) M. Harrison
3. (29) Sa. Moss
4. (44) R. Bush
5. (53) J. Plummer
6. (68) New York
7. (77) P. Holmes
8. (92) T. Green
9. (101) L. Smith
10. (116) A. Randle El
11. (125) B. Watson
12. (140) B. Lloyd
13. (149) M. Stover
14. (164) M. Faulk
15. (173) C. Henry
16. (188) M. Brunell
17. (197) L. Tynes

ToppsCo1lector

(NOTE TO ALL: I didn't pick my team, I passed out and this is what was drafted for me by I'm guessing my PC)
QBs:
Eli Manning
Brett Favre
Brad Johnson
WR:
Torry Holt
Derrick Mason
Amani Toomer
RB:
Clinton Portis
Warrick Dunn
Brian WestBrook
Lawerence Maloney
Greg Jones
TE:
Alge Crumpler
Ben Troupe
K:
Jason Elam
John Kasay
Def:
Indy
Philly

I'm happy with what I got even though I thought the draft was at 11 not 10 or whenever it was lol.

ToppsCo1lector

Thanks Zef. lol, I want those 3 minutes of my life back now.

perkdog

I like Topps Collectors team the best. Bri's got Barber and Harrison as studs, Plummer and Trent Green are too unpredictable. Zef if McGahee and Steven Jackson have the year that they were supposed to have LAST year then you got some good backs. McNabb and Culpepper got to show they can dominate again. Topps squad looks like the best to me. Good luck fella's

Tap4black

I'll toss in my slackers for comparison. Was hoping to land Lamont Jordan with pick 9 but he was snatched up 1 spot earlier. Decided on Manning as TD passes are worth 6, just like Rush/Rec Scores and I see him tossing 40 again this year. Ronnie Brown should have a nice upswing with no ganji smoking Ricky Williams to split carries with. If either C. Brown or T. Jones can score the majority of the carries for their team, I could be solid.

1. (9) P. Manning QB
2. (16) R. Brown RB
3. (33) R. Wayne WR
4. (40) J. Shockey TE
5. (57) T. Jones RB
6. (64) C. Brown RB
7. (81) N. Rackers K
8. (88) K. Robinson WR
9. (105) N. Burleson WR
10. (112) M. Moore RB
11. (129) J. Porter WR
12. (136) Jacksonville DEF
13. (153) M. Barber RB
14. (160) B. Leftwich QB
15. (177) D. Carr QB
16. (184) Dallas DEF
17. (201) J. Wiggins TE

BigRedMachine

That draft was brutal for me. I didn't want the fourth pick AT ALL!! Reason being, of course, is that after Alexander, Tomlinson, and Johnson, it's up in the air. After those three there is a definate plateau and a dropoff in expected performance. The fourth pick is the one where you are forced to choose the next best out of a pool of 10 possible picks, then have to wait the longest for the next pick. It sucks!

I took Edgerrin because I think he's out to prove he's the real deal anywhere besides indianapolis, because his offensive line is huge, and because defenses have to respect Fitzgerald and Boldin so loading up the line isn't going to happen. If he finishes with 1400+ yards and 10+ TD's, I'll do okay, if not, I'll look like a chump.

I did okay at receiver with Owens and Chambers, they should be as productive as anyone. Knowing I would be weak at RB (the most important position), I took a defense, kicker, and tight end earlier than I normally would have. But since I knew I'd be behind in running back points, I got the Pittsburgh defense, Adam Viniteiri at kicker, and Tony Gonzalez at tight end. I'm hoping by being what should be top three in each of those positions I can offset being behind at running back.

Time will tell. If I would have been third instead of fourth, I would've had Larry Johnson and the rest of my team probably would've been the same. Then my team would've looked great instead of okay. If not a top three pick, give me 12th and 13th. Then with the pool of Edgerrin James, Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, Rudi Johnson, LaMont Jordan, Ronnie Brown (who I really wanted but didn't feel like I could take fourth), Steven Jackson, Cadillac Williams, Julius Jones, Willis McGahee, Kevin Jones, etc. I could have gotten two of them. Once the 21rst pick (my second) rolled around, they were all gone. So instead of taking the 18th best running back, I went with a guy who should be a top three receiver and followed it up with a guy who should be a top 10 receiver. It was the only way I thought I could go.

Good luck all.

shawn

1. (4) E. James RB
2. (21) T. Owens WR
3. (28) C. Chambers WR
4. (45) D. Foster RB
5. (52) T. Gonzalez TE
6. (69) Pittsburgh DEF
7. (76) A. Vinatieri K
8. (93) L. White RB
9. (100) A. Brooks QB
10. (117) D. Bennett WR
11. (124) D. Brees QB
12. (141) B. Stokley WR
13. (148) C. Perry RB
14. (165) N. Kaeding K
15. (172) Miami DEF
16. (189) M. Pollard TE
17. (196) V. Young QB

ChrisC

I should be able to snag one of the 6 playoff spots - I hope!


1. (11) R. Johnson RB
2. (14) C. Palmer QB
3. (35) H. Ward WR
4. (38) J. Lewis RB
5 . (59) Chicago DEF
6. (62) D. Branch WR
7. (83) C. Martin RB
8. (86) M. Muhammad WR
9. (107) I. Bruce WR
10. (110) J. Brown K
11. (131) K. Barlow RB
12. (134) J. Stevens TE
13. (155) Ji. Smith WR
14. (158) S. McNair QB
15. (179) M. Pittman RB
16. (182) R. Ferguson WR
17. (203) B. Griese QB

BigRedMachine

chris,

good luck in the league. two things I don't like about your team (like you care)

In a heads up format, I hate having a QB/RB or RB/WR from the same team, like you have with Palmer and Rudi. They both may end up with great years, but how many weeks will they both be great? It's more than likely going to be one or the other, and that makes winning heads up tough.

Also, I thought your 13th pick retired? Am I mistaken?

If not, you should've picked Rickey Williams and Jerome Bettis too.

shawn

ToppsCo1lector

Your right Big Red Jimmy Smith did retire.

Anybody want something off my team? Offer me a trade.

bri2327

Are we going to do any sort of prize like we have with the baseball league ?

ToppsCo1lector

I'd hope so. I'm willing to put up a single in the 20-25 dollar range, if everyone did that it'd be a pretty sweet mailday imo.

ChrisC

Shawn,

I did not know Smith retired, I dropped him after the draft!

I don't completely disagree about the QB/RB team combo, but its not QB/WR. I took Rudi because I was the 11th pick and P. Manning was not available and Rudi was the best available RB. Some like to take RB's with their first 2 or 3 picks, I like 1 RB, 1 QB, or 1 WR with my first 3 picks, RB always first either QB or WR 2nd depending on how everyone else is drafting.


Why did you pick a Def, TE and Kicker before QB?

Good Luck to you as well!

Chris

ToppsCo1lector

Chris-I think Aaron Brooks will put up big numbers in Oakland. Now I'm not saying Oakland will win many, but he's going to put up some good numbers.

ChrisC

Topps - I am not doubting Brooks, just a little suprised he took one of the top scoring positions with his 10th pick!

Also - I sent you a trade offer!

BigRedMachine

Chris,

Like I said earlier, I took a defense, kicker, and tight end earlier than I normally would have.

But I felt I was going to be a little weak at running back, since the big three were gone and I had to pick fourth. I didn't get another chance until pick 21, of course, and Terrell Owens was there and seemed like a better pick than the 14th best running back. So I took Pittsburgh(top 3 defense), Viniteiri (top 3 kicker), and Gonzalez (top 3 tight end) so I could hopefully pick up some points I'll most likely lose at RB.

I never pick a quarterback high, as after Manning there isn't a drop off. There will be a dozen qb's throw between 18 and 26 touchdowns, so why take one early?? You won't gain much on your opponent. (While the difference between Gonzalez/Gates/Shockey might be huge over the 10th tight end) About the time the fifth round came and I began to get nervous about getting any qb, I noticed that 10 of you guys had already drafted yours and zef had drafted two. I didn't see anyone else drafting a qb in the next three rounds, and Brees, Bledsoe, Green, and Brooks were all still available. So I waited and hoped and it worked out. I didn't really want Bledsoe (as I have Owens) nor Green (since I have Gonzalez). The other two.....well it ended up I got both anyway.

Like I said, it's all about plateau's and value over the next available. Not just points scored. To simplify it, if it was all about points, why not take kicker in the first round?? If you look at the top ten scorers in the NFL every year, 8 or 9 are kickers. So why don't we take kickers? Because even though they score a 100+ points, the difference between first and tenth is minimal. The same can be said about quarterbacks. (although Manning is an exception and there is usually one kicker who does well but who can tell who that will be year to year?)

just my opinion, like I said, if I had one of the top three rb's, I'd feel A LOT better.

shawn

to simplify this "authentic frontier jibberish", I waited on QB because all you guys had already drafted quarterback by round five, and zef had two. I was hoping you would get busy filling other spots before drafting a backup qb and I could wait.....getting a top defense, te, and kicker. Not my plan going in, but it's the way it worked out.

edited for spelling

ChrisC

EDIT: 9th pick

ToppsCo1lector

Chris-I'll send you a revised trade offer tonight.

ctsoxfan

I'm cool with a $20 - $25 prize, same as the baseball league.

ToppsCo1lector

So anyone know why my trade was denied by the leage?

ChrisC

Vetoed by 3 league memebers, myself included!

ToppsCo1lector

lol. Ya'll are funny. My main point was to get Baltimores defense, a major upgrade over Philly's. But alas, I guess when I didn't do my own draft and clearly 'Brook was my thirdbest RB and I put up the trade offer lol, the 'league' knows best.

BigRedMachine

I didn't veto your trade Topps, but I probably would have if I would have seen it.

I know we have six weeks until the season or more, and I have no problem giving out a $15-$25 card to the winner, but we need to make sure most of us are on board.

I'd hate to get lucky and then 9 of you say, "Bet?? There wasn't a bet."

We in or out?? I'm in.

Good luck to all of you.

shawn

ToppsCo1lector

I'm definetly in. Whoever wins just let me know what sport you prefer(outside of hockey and other nonmajors).

Bigred-I'm proposing a few other trades to umm, bump up my team.

ChrisC

Im in - Probably give up cash instead of cards.

perkdog

Am I the only one who thinks Edge will be a flop this season? Arizona had a non existing running game last year, that O-line just cannot run block.

ToppsCo1lector

Perk-Edge is one of the best backs in the league. Although that line is suspect, the line is still huge. He's the best combo(blocking, recieving, rushing) RB in the league, and with Boldin/Fitz/Lewis commanding attention there is no way that defenses can stack the box against him. I see him having another 1400+yd rushing season. Remember, he's still quite young given his experience and he is well past the knee injuries and he's back to being Edge again. Plus, JJ Arrington was overrated as a second round pick.

tennesseebanker

Im in with a card for the winner. Hows everyone like the league so far ?

ToppsCo1lector

Tennesse-I'm very happy with the selections I recieved. It's looks pretty competitive between a few of us.

perkdog

Topps I agree Edge is one of the best no doubt. I just dont think that line will help him much, I no Shipp is awful and Arrington is not much better but that rushing game was so bad I dont think it all falls on the backs. Time will tell.

Im starting to like my 12th and 13th picks in my league this year, the way I see it the backs are most important so I can grab 2 servicable guys at those picks.

#1 Johnson
#2 LT
#3 alexander
#4 Barber
#5 Portis --- that leaves me with a pool that consists of Edge, Jordan, Rudi, Caddy, Steven Jackson, Westbrook, and possibly Willie Parker, Droughns, Ronnie Brown. A look at McGahee, and McCallister as well. Somebody is bound to grab Manning or a top wideout in the first round too so that makes it even deeper at my picks for a running back.

ToppsCo1lector

I got Portis in the draft. It's a solid pickup; and I have Warrick Dunn and Brian Westbrook behind him. Then I think my last tailback is that bulldog Greg Jones.

softparade

damn, where was I when this went down? On vacation probably.

Edited to say isn't way early for a fantasy draft? I hope none of you guys get wrecked by training camp injuries

ChrisC

I cant wait to get this season started.

36 days and counting!

ToppsCo1lector

So, are we gonna all come into agreement with a ummm wager per say? I think it'll make the fantasy league a little more interesting.

ChrisC

Yeah I'm in - But we need to agree on what's at stake in terms of value! I really dont have any graded cards I am willing to give up. So Im thinking cash!

ChrisC

or

2001 Upper Deck Tiger Woods rookie (Pack Fresh Mint)

or

1990 unopened PGA Tour Proset Complete sealed set of 100 cards

or

1990 and 1991 Topps Football - Pack Fresh Mint (Name your star cards except Montana)

bri2327

Just an update....

Tennessee & myself are the only 2 undefeated teams so far !

That will end this week, we play each other

I dont know how my team pulled it off the first two weeks..I have the Giants defense which hasnt been too good, Plummer at QB who has been horrible, and my 2 backups are Trent Green and Brunell.....

So far Marvin Harrison has been great for me. Same goes for L.J. Smith, Tiki, and Matt Stover.

estang

No offense (pun intended), but this draft caught my eye as being "bad":

1. (9) P. Manning QB (great)
2. (16) R. Brown RB (disappointing team)
3. (33) R. Wayne WR (very good)
4. (40) J. Shockey TE (good)
5. (57) T. Jones RB (I've got him & he's average)
6. (64) C. Brown RB (good)
7. (81) N. Rackers K (early for a kicker)
8. (88) K. Robinson WR (yuck)
9. (105) N. Burleson WR (double yuck)
10. (112) M. Moore RB (triple yuck)
11. (129) J. Porter WR (quadruple yuck)
12. (136) Jacksonville DEF (great)
13. (153) M. Barber RB (yuck)
14. (160) B. Leftwich QB (good)
15. (177) D. Carr QB (why another QB)
16. (184) Dallas DEF (average)
17. (201) J. Wiggins TE Text (good)

It's mainly this string of 4 rounds that stands out --- A lot of quality guys could have been had ---

8. (88) K. Robinson WR (yuck)
9. (105) N. Burleson WR (double yuck)
10. (112) M. Moore RB (triple yuck)
11. (129) J. Porter WR (quadruple yuck)

bri2327

Glad I put Brunell in at starter today. 24-27 for 261 yds. and a TD. He also broke the NFL record by completing his first 22 passes.

BigRedMachine

Big Red Machine is making a move this week, even with my pathetic team.

A five-way tie for fourth had me starting the day in 8th place (because of lowest point total).

But unless you guys get some major points tonight, the four teams I am tied with are all losing. It'll boost me up to fourth alone and back in playoff contention (I'd be out if it started today)

Tennessee's team is on fire!!

Unfortunately, my team is bad. So please excuse what is bound to be a one week euphoria for my team.

shawn

bri2327

Wanna talk bad ?

After winning the first 2 games I have lost 5 straight, not even been close in one. My team has players hurt all over, and nearly every week I am forgetting to change the lineup to account for injuries and bye's.

perkdog

Anyone regret taking EDGE?

ChrisC

We have 4 weeks to get a playoff spot locked up, I still have hope. Looks like TennesseeB and maybe Zef are the only locks at this point!

Good Luck!

zef204

<< <i>We have 4 weeks to get a playoff spot locked up, I still have hope. Looks like TennesseeB and maybe Zef are the only locks at this point!

Good Luck! >>



I don't think so.

bri2327

i should change the title of this thread to why my fantasy football is cr@p.

zef204

<< <i>i should change the title of this thread to why my fantasy football is cr@p. >>



I was going to make a comment about that, but I figured you already knew

bri2327

<< <i>

<< <i>i should change the title of this thread to why my fantasy football is cr@p. >>



I was going to make a comment about that, but I figured you already knew >>



Thanks for the reminder anyhow !

BigRedMachine

Well Bri, your fantasy team looks the best this week.

Unfortunately, it'll be your last.

Bwaaaaahhhhhhhh!!

shawn