Anyone ever backed out of an EBAY Auction that they won?
craig19
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As you guys might know, simultaneously to me winning the auction for the (50) 1989 PSA10 Griffey Jr. donruss rookies, the thread about the seller and the quality of his cards, especially the 1989 Donruss Rookies, was flying around. So far I have done the following: Asked the seller for more scans of more of the cards, and asked the selle rwhat his return policy is.
Should I just send him the $1600, or should I continue to go after the two requests i made? Do you think he will send me more pics? If he won't send me more pics, should I cautiously reneg out of the auction and request him to send a 2nd chance offer to the next bidder, whoi was close behind?
Any advice helps...
Should I just send him the $1600, or should I continue to go after the two requests i made? Do you think he will send me more pics? If he won't send me more pics, should I cautiously reneg out of the auction and request him to send a 2nd chance offer to the next bidder, whoi was close behind?
Any advice helps...
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The seller had the cards graded by PSA and whether or not you, myself or the entire forum agrees or disagrees with the grades assigned is irrelevant. PSA is the final arbiter and what they say goes.
If I was the seller and you tried to back out of the deal, I'd definitely file a NPB against you and you'd probably receive a strike for it. If you can handle the strike, then don't pay. But if a strike will NARU you, I'd think it over.
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added: on second thought, there may be a way "out" for you, but it might not pass the stink test around here.. contact the seller and ask him how much money he would like to cancel the transaction.. you could fib i suppose and tell him an emergency popped up and you need your funds for that.. if you offer to cover his costs, and give him a good "explanation", then maybe he will not file a NPB on you or leave negative feedback.. i would investigate his feedback first, particularly his feedback left for others.. see if he negs people.
In your situation, I would do what is in your best interest. If your gut feeling tells you that this auction is a scam, I would would back out and accept the NPB strike (especially if this strike would not be your third). However, hopefully this taught you a lesson.
The bottom line......
Worry about yourself and do what is in your best interest.
Rich
The "other thread" does not have any thing to do with "scam auctions." It is about
whether or not PSA is "being careful enough" in the hunt for "modern trimmed cards."
The cards in the subject auction are likely the worst 10s you will find. But, the
buyer bid on them and won them. They are in PSA 10 holders, thus, they are
PSA 10s.
I have the feeling that the seller does not want to do business with anybody that
is not going to be a happy customer. He may well let the buyer out of the deal, for
a small fee.
The buyer, over time, can probably get his money back by selling the cards on eBay,
a few at a time.
Again, the main thing to remember here is that the seller is NOT scamming his customers
when he sells and delivers cards that are graded "as advertised."
The "crack and resub" game is a wealth creator that many folks think has essentially
stolen the ability of coin buyers to rely on the "consistency" of all TPGers. The same
phenom is fast doing the same to the card trade. The pressure to "create wealth" is
substantial on the grading firms; they all need to start resisting that pressure. The
first firm to "just say no," will lose a little business in the VERY short-term, and they
will emerge, long term, as the graders with the highest level of consistency and
integrity in the business.
If I was the buyer, I would pay and sell the cards on eBay.
storm
Do you have a link to the auction?
I don't know what this is about? Are you saying the guy sold you 50 "overgraded" Griffey RCs?
mike
thanks
next time you'll do better.
added: if he's going to let you out, then you're set.. offer to pay his fees anyway.. it's a nice gesture, as is him letting you out of the auction.. glad you were able to resolve it.
Do you guys really think this seller is being honest when he claims that he will give "a full refund if you are not satisfied"? I for one am not. I would like to see a link to the auction.
Rich
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
claims that he will give "a full refund if you are not satisfied"?"
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Of course he will.
This is a VERY fast-growing seller, and he is not interested in
having somebody mess him up over a $1600.00 deal. And,
the subject cards are easily saleable by HIM at anytime.
This seller's customers love him. They are getting PSA 10s,
and they are "buying-the-slabs-not-the-cards."
No one has suggested - in this thread or the other one -
that this seller is not providing great customer service.
The ONLY questions raised have been in regard to how
such ugly cards are ending up in PSA 10 holders, and
how the seller has been so "lucky" with his "resubmits."
Nothing in either thread has - in mean spirit - slammed
the seller. There have just been questions about whether
the "arbitrage game" is being closely-enough monitored
by PSA to ensure that ALL of our PSA investments retain
their full value over time.
storm
"Of Course" is a fairly stong word. I would not be so sure that this or any seller would accept a refund on a slabbed or any card for that matter. With regard to a slabbed card, what is stopping a buyer from cracking the card out and replacing it in the slab with another not as nice looking card and then returning it. Heck, as far as we know this already happened which is why some people are having a hard time figuring out how these cards got such a high grade. As a seller, I would never accept a return unless I made some kind of mistake on my end.
Rich
that the subject seller is really into "customer service."
Most people who spend $1600 on cards are not going to
crack 'em and replace the existing cards with junk. (In
this case, who would know? ONLY KIDDING.
I agree about refunds. I do not offer refunds UNLESS I
have "lied about what the item was," or if I send the wrong
card.
The subject deal in this thread is not about "buyer's remorse."
It is about a buyer who got "spooked" by "the other thread,"
when there REALLY was no solid reason to get "spooked."
I did not start the other thread, but I did feed it and I did so
"in good faith." If it was taken the "wrong way" by anybody,
I apologize. It was not about "bad sellers;" it was about
consistent and conservative grading being the best way to
protect our investments.
storm
simple facts are that you bid on 50 PSA 10 griffey's.. if you get 50 PSA 10 griffeys in holders that are not tampered with, then you're getting what you bid on..
<< <i>ive never backed out of an auction..
simple facts are that you bid on 50 PSA 10 griffey's.. if you get 50 PSA 10 griffeys in holders that are not tampered with, then you're getting what you bid on.. >>
'nuff said......
I wish you luck, craig19, and hope that cards turn out to be better than you think.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Plus, if you look at '89 Donruss cards under magnification, you can see why it would be pretty tough to recut them and get them graded with a reputable grading company. The '89 Donruss cards I've pulled from racks had very "fuzzy" edges under a 10X lens. I don't think psa would miss it if someone trimmed them.