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Minnie Minoso Master and Basic
1967 Topps PSA 8+
1960's Topps run Mega Set image
"For me, playing baseball has been like a war and I was defending the uniform I wore, Every time I put on the uniform I respected it like the American flag. I wore it like I was representing every Latin country."--Minnie Minoso
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  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    BAHAHAHHAHAHAA
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    to anyone who is willing to do my son's Algebra homework, i have a 1000 count box of 1992 Upper Deck baseball commons for trade....BTW, if you get the right grader on the right day, i.e. company X-mas party day, and the grader is a little sauced and he sees that Banks card in just the right light, well mister, you've got yourself an uncontestable PSA 9!!
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    hehe...well i just sent an email asking if it was psa 9...so i didnt badger the person...the response was:

    Auction ended. This was my mistake. My husband made some notes for me to post this auction and I misunderstood what he wrote down. I think he was just trying to explain the PSA system to me looking back at his notes. He thought the card might be anywhere from a PSA 9 - 7 if it were graded. I received some hostel emails from this auction so I'm ending it since I don't know enough about baseball cards. Anyway, I should have had him confirm the description before I posted but he was out of town on business. I apologize for the confusion. Again, sorry - my expertise is clothes (as you can see from past auctions) not baseball cards - just doing this for my husband. Thanks

    it aint no 9-7.....more like 3-4
  • looks like a 1 oc
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>hehe...well i just sent an email asking if it was psa 9...so i didnt badger the person...the response was:

    Auction ended. This was my mistake. My husband made some notes for me to post this auction and I misunderstood what he wrote down. I think he was just trying to explain the PSA system to me looking back at his notes. He thought the card might be anywhere from a PSA 9 - 7 if it were graded. I received some hostel emails from this auction so I'm ending it since I don't know enough about baseball cards. Anyway, I should have had him confirm the description before I posted but he was out of town on business. I apologize for the confusion. Again, sorry - my expertise is clothes (as you can see from past auctions) not baseball cards - just doing this for my husband. Thanks

    it aint no 9-7.....more like 3-4 >>


    This is interesting from one point.

    You look at the auction description and see if the story adds up?

    The pieces, IMO, are of a person who is clueless rather than a scammer.

    Getting hostile ["hostel"] emails is kind of sad.

    Lothar just "inquired" - a gentleman - anyone armed with these facts, that would get hostile, is "part of the problem" with ebay rather than part of the solution. Ebay goodguy cop? No.

    Just imagine if that were your mom?

    mike
    Mike
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Cancelled Auction Copy:

    "This card belongs to my husband. Apparently, some kid traded it to him grade school in exchange for my husband doing his homework (what a guy!). I don't profess to be a baseball card expert by any stretch so here is the information. 1969 Topps card. Ernie Banks first base for Cubs. PSA 9. It has a little plastic sleeve that it's been in. I removed it to take the picture since the sleeve is a bit discolored. The card seems to be in great condition but I don't know what "mint" condition means exactly so I hesitate to use that word. It has just some very minor wear around the edges as far as I can tell. I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability. Serious bidders only! Thanks! '

    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    If she had left out: "..............don't know what "mint" condition means exactly so I hesitate to use that word;"

    I might be able to agree with STONE.

    She did not, I do not.

    If she was being honest, she learned a good lesson. If she
    is a scammer, she knows she is "on somebody's watched list."
    Either way, a positive result was caused by "consumer activisim."

    Scamsters come in all configurations: EVEN "wives/mothers."

    storm image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Mistakes happen too.

    I feel sorry for the family that they're having to sell such a sentimental item.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Storm

    This was the "top" piece of the story that I am going on - if she was setting someone up - she would not have given such a good pic?

    A lot of the scammers that people post here come up with a "fuzzy" pic/scan as part of the act.

    If she is a scammer - I agree - she learned a lesson.

    mike
    Mike
  • Come on guys, let's use a LITTLE common sense here.

    This is not a scam but a simple mistake. Not everybody on eBay is out to get YOU.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "This is not a scam but a simple mistake.
    Not everybody on eBay is out to get YOU."

    /////////////////////////////////////////////////

    You are probably right; just an error.

    On a percentage basis, almost no one on eBay
    is out to get anybody. But, when 200,000,000
    folks are allowed to use the "venue," it does
    not take a real large percentage to spoil the
    stew for everybody; and breed unwarranted
    suspicion in many.

    storm
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Look like PSA 1 (OC) maybe PSA 2 (OC) at the best.


  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Look like PSA 1 (OC) maybe PSA 2 (OC) at the best. >>


    JC

    I don't think you can get an OC qualifier with a 1 or 2 - it's built into the grade - I believe?

    mike
    Mike
  • VintageJeffVintageJeff Posts: 1,282


    << <i>

    << <i>Look like PSA 1 (OC) maybe PSA 2 (OC) at the best. >>


    JC

    I don't think you can get an OC qualifier with a 1 or 2 - it's built into the grade - I believe?

    mike >>



    actually
    Collecting
    Minnie Minoso Master and Basic
    1967 Topps PSA 8+
    1960's Topps run Mega Set image
    "For me, playing baseball has been like a war and I was defending the uniform I wore, Every time I put on the uniform I respected it like the American flag. I wore it like I was representing every Latin country."--Minnie Minoso
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    On the actually card:

    MK and MC seem to be the only Qs that are not considered
    within the general grading standards.

    Thus, while you could
    have a 1 - 10, that was MK/MC, you could not have a PSA1 (OC),
    unless - remotely possible - the 90/10 threshold was not met.
    That is because if the card did not make the 90/10 range, it
    would likely get the MC.

    Again, there are NO minimum standards in ref to the MC and MK.
    It either is, or it is not.

    QUALIFIERS:
    PSA will grade nearly every card submitted. Cards having significant flaws will receive "qualified" grades as follows:

    OC (Off Center):
    When the centering of the card falls below the minimum standard for that grade will be designated "OC." PSA determines centering by comparing the measurements of the borders from left to right and top to bottom. The centering is designated as the percent of difference at the most off-center part of the card. A 5% leeway is given to the front centering minimum standards for cards which grade NM 7 or better. For example, a card which meets all of the other requirements for PSA MINT 9 and measures 60/40 off-center on the front automatically meets the PSA front centering standards for MINT 9. If a card meets all of the other requirements for PSA MINT 9 and measures 65/35 off-center on the front, it may be deemed to meet the PSA front centering standards for MINT 9 if the eye appeal of the card is good.
    ST (Staining):
    ) Cards with staining below the minimum standards for the grade will be designated "ST."
    PD (Print Defect):
    Cards with significant printing defects will be designated "PD."
    OF (Out of Focus):
    Cards with focus below the minimum standards for the grade will be designated "OF."

    MK (Marks):
    Cards with writing, ink marks, pencil marks, etc. will be designated "MK."

    MC (Miscut):
    ): Cards with a factory miscut, such as a diamond cut, or when another card's image is on the original card will be designated "MC."

    storm


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • VintageJeffVintageJeff Posts: 1,282
    my fault i thought stone said it couldnt get a qualifier now i see he said oc.
    Collecting
    Minnie Minoso Master and Basic
    1967 Topps PSA 8+
    1960's Topps run Mega Set image
    "For me, playing baseball has been like a war and I was defending the uniform I wore, Every time I put on the uniform I respected it like the American flag. I wore it like I was representing every Latin country."--Minnie Minoso
    image
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