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Here is a perfect example of a mis-labeled SF/MS coin

StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
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The coin is easily a Satin Finish coin in a Mint State holder!

2005-D Roosie

Your to tell me that PCGS cannot tell the difference? I though at first it was a Proof coin mis-labeled.

Later, Paul.

Later, Paul.

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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't believe that no-one had any comment on this coin. It has Cameo devices on it and they call it a business strike.

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • FarringtonFarrington Posts: 18
    With the lighting its really hard to tell, but it almost does look like a business strike to me.
  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    That coin looks like a BS to me.
  • mas3387mas3387 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭
    Hey Paul,

    I'd have to agree with you on this one, most likely an SF coin. If you check the cert.#'s up and down from this coin you will find maybe 1 of every coin from 2005? Seems to be the same deal as the last coins that where pulled from a TT auction for PCGS review. After a PCGS review 6 of the 8 coins where changed into SF holders and 2 coins remained in NON-SF holders!!!! I may have a chance to review one of the 2 coins PCGS did not change into a SF holder, image

    Wonder if any of the other coins from this submission hit TT? Here's one coin a few cert.#'s up:

    Cert Verification #: 10553988
    Date, mintmark: 2005-D
    Denomination: 1C
    Variety: N/A
    Pedigree:
    Country: The United States of America
    Grade: MS69RD

    Not SF?????
    image
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭
    I am undecided on the Roosie in question. I think it looks like a SMS coin from the 65-67 era.
    But to me it looks more BS strike in the fields, and proof like with the cameo devices.
    I think this is one coin that would need to be in hand to tell for sure.
    Dan
  • mas3387mas3387 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭


    << <i>proof like with the cameo devices. >>



    Typical of the D Roosevelt dimes in the 2005 Satin Finish mint sets.

    Dan, I can send out an example if you would like to see one in the mint cello? Just PM me image
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>proof like with the cameo devices. >>



    Typical of the D Roosevelt dimes in the 2005 Satin Finish mint sets.

    Dan, I can send out an example if you would like to see one in the mint cello? Just PM me image >>


    Can you send me a slabbed PCGS 2005-D MS69FB/SF for me to examine for a long time, say 50 years or so!? image

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • mas3387mas3387 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can you send me a slabbed PCGS 2005-D MS69FB/SF for me to examine for a long time, say 50 years or so!? >>



    Working on that order for you Paul image

    Someone has to make one???
  • TAP444TAP444 Posts: 824
    you can add me for a 05d 69fb dime as well
    keep looking
    Tim
    LOOKING FOR 1931-s merc that is nice for the grade and fb
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When will the 2006 SF'S start showing up on ebay???? I want a 69 no bands of both P & D.
  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭
    Looks like a business strike to me. Very early die state roosies often come with cameo devices. They are great coins to behold.
  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭


    << <i>When will the 2006 SF'S start showing up on ebay???? I want a 69 no bands of both P & D. >>



    By definition such a coin could not exisit, IMO. MS69 should be fully struck, and therefore have full bands - "full detail - as intended". Am I missing something?
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess you are missing something clakamas, I have both of the 2005's in SF 69 NO BANDS. They are also listed in the PCGS price list with and without bands.

    Jon
  • TAP444TAP444 Posts: 824
    the mint says they will have them for sale on the 18th
    so it should not be long after that
    tim
    LOOKING FOR 1931-s merc that is nice for the grade and fb
  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭


    << <i>I guess you are missing something clakamas, I have both of the 2005's in SF 69 NO BANDS. They are also listed in the PCGS price list with and without bands.

    Jon >>



    I have no doubt that PCGS has graded them but what I am saying is that they are overgraded simply because they should not be MS69 w/o full bands. MS68 or lower, regardless of how perfect the surfaces are, so I wonder why someone would want one. I guess the "near" full strike" would be the rationalization for grading MS69.

    "MS/PR-69 Virtually as struck with minuscule imperfections, near full strike necessary "
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