Asheville Tourists Manager Joe Mikulik
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The latest and greatest tantrum thrown by a baseball manager! Would appreciate if someone could find a link to a story or video of this. Thanks....
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<< <i>If I were running the team, I would fire him. I can understand a little tantrum in a heated moment, but the extent to which he took it was an embarrassment to the organization, and I would not want someone like that associated with any organization I was in charge of. >>
Considering he has been with them for several years with success, it probably won't happen.
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<< <i>Maybe the Cubs could get him...at least then they would have a manager with a pulse. >>
I second that
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"For me, playing baseball has been like a war and I was defending the uniform I wore, Every time I put on the uniform I respected it like the American flag. I wore it like I was representing every Latin country."--Minnie Minoso
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-- Yogi Berra
No doubt everyone will have their opinion.
Some say he was an embarassment to the team/organization/young players etc.
Some say he should be fired or at minimum suspended.
He did nothing there I haven't seen from Lou Piniella over the years.
He may have gone a bit beyond but all and all - that was a "good ole baseball manager's tantrum."
And, BTW, I did not have the privilege of seeing what the ump did to provoke this...if anything?
mike
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
edited to say seeing Mikulik head first it into 2nd base was classic
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<< <i>I don't think it was an embarassment at all. It's great to see the manager have this much passion. He shouldn't be fired, that's for sure... >>
Fined and suspended a week! Baseball will be a hollow sport for the next 7 days. I was hoping for a Mikulik 4th of July Fireworks Spectacular! Oh well......
<< <i>With all the talk involving Ozzie Guillen and his " old school " approach lately I think it was great to see an old fashion temper tantrum. To me, that is old school managing, not Guillens bigotted, self rightous, put anyone he can down attitude. In the end that manager will end up buying the umpire a beer the next time they meet up and let bygones be bygones, whereas Guillen likes to mke enemies for life with the crap he spews. >>
I read an article in the Toronto Sun this weekend that said Cito Gaston is one Ozzie Guillen outburst away from managing the ChiSox.
As a ChiSox fan, one of the reasons I like Ozzie is because he's not afraid to speak his mind. Ozzie isn't going anywhere and even if he did, no way in heck would Williams hire Gaston.
The bottom line is....
Never believe what you read in newspapers. Most of these idiot writers will say anything to make their story more interesting regardless if it's true or not.
Rich
Guillen is not going anywhere!
There is a big difference between speaking your mind when there is thought behind it and when it is general bashing of whoever the flavor of the day is depending on Guillens mood swings. He has zero class and it is an insult to all the real old school players, coaches, managers, etc. to be grouped with him.
-- Yogi Berra
Guillen gets along with his players, he fills the seats at Comiskey park (yep, as far as I'm concerned...its still comiskey), and has already won one World Series and may be on his way to a second. Who was the last ChiSox manager to accomplish that? Guillen calls it the way he sees it (You can't balme anyone for being honest). He may be harsh at times, but no way in heck does that alone mean he should be fired. Plus, I actually like it as his attitude reminds me of myself.
Rich
As for Ozzie getting along with his players, ask Magglio and Big Hurt if he does...
Tabe
<< <i>Maybe it wont be Cito Gaston, but dont be confused Sox fans, Guillen will be fired. His act will not be tolerated, winning or not. The only thing that has kept him there this long is the pitching staff he has.
There is a big difference between speaking your mind when there is thought behind it and when it is general bashing of whoever the flavor of the day is depending on Guillens mood swings. He has zero class and it is an insult to all the real old school players, coaches, managers, etc. to be grouped with him. >>
Bri
This is one of those situations that I think there's more than we are getting.
Ozzie is way smarter than he sounds and has done more for the White Sox in one year than most managers may do in a lifetime. This is a statement of fact and in no way condoning his statements.
Now, to be fair, one has to understand Ozzie and where he comes from. I come from NYC and was raised with Cubans and Puerto Ricans. When they want to express ultimate disfavor for someone, they call them a fag - they viewed them as weak. De facto - it is a rank on someone; after the fact - it may look like bigotry - but I don't think Ozzie's a bigot. Just misguided by his way of life and culture.
He's a very proud person and is having trouble showing contrition - again - that macho crap - but, he is considered a great ballplayer, person and leader.
And, I agree, I will be surprised if he's fired. It would take a ton of outside pressure. He's a winner and that's what they want - and that includes the city.
mike
The big hurt is a big baby. I was so glad that Chicago got rid of him. The point is that Ozzie gets along with his current players. Common sense should tell you that a person can't get along with everyone. However, Ozzie was smart enough to get rid of the problems before they became distractions (any good manager would have done the same thing). I've been a pharmacy manager for a long time. The first thing I do when I take over a store is find out who will fit in my program and who won't. I make moves as fast as I can to get a team that will work together and respect the management. As for Mariotti, he's a trouoble maker that is always looking for controversy. Well, Ozzie isn't about to put up with his garbage. The only thing that I would have done different if I was Ozzie is that I would not have apologized that that idiot!
Rich
<< <i>Writer:
As a ChiSox fan, one of the reasons I like Ozzie is because he's not afraid to speak his mind. Ozzie isn't going anywhere and even if he did, no way in heck would Williams hire Gaston.
The bottom line is....
Never believe what you read in newspapers. Most of these idiot writers will say anything to make their story more interesting regardless if it's true or not.
Rich >>
Hitler "spoke his mind too"...you like him too?
<< <i> As for Mariotti, he's a trouoble maker that is always looking for controversy. Well, Ozzie isn't about to put up with his garbage. The only thing that I would have done different if I was Ozzie is that I would not have apologized that that idiot!
Rich >>
I thought you said you like people who speak their mind?
Well isn't Mariotti doing just that?
Like I said earlier, I wish Ozzie would not have apologized.
The bottom line regarding Ozzie is.....
Ozzie knows what it takes to win, has filled the seats at Comiskey, and has the loyalty of his players.......what more can anyone ask for in a manager?
Rich
<< <i>Hitler "spoke his mind too"...you like him too? >>
I don't think so...
Ozzie had a better year.
<< <i>fifthscale: To compare Ozzie to Hitler is idiotic!
Rich >>
Reductio ad absurdum.
I never "compared" Ozzie to Hitler. I simply called you out because you claim you like Ozzie because he "speaks his mind'.
I think it is more accurate to say that you like people who speak their minds....as long as you agree with the speech.
Which in reality simply means you like people who's speach you agree with. Big whoop there!!!
Thats a vast difference from admiring a guy who speaks his mind...regardless of whether or not you agree with the speech.
You're talking like an idiot now. Sure Hitler spoke his mind, but he also killed a ton of innocent people. All Ozzie did was speak his mind. I don't like people who kill innocent people. Isn't this common sense?
Rich
<< <i>5thscale......
You're talking like an idiot now. Sure Hitler spoke his mind, but he also killed a ton of innocent people. All Ozzie did was speak his mind. I don't like people who kill innocent people. Isn't this common sense?
Rich >>
Ok, I'll take back the Hitler example because I don't think you know what "reductio ad absurdum" means...otherwise you wouldn't have made that "commense sense" statement.
But it still remains, you like Ozzie because you agree with his speech.
Ozzie's trait of speaking his mind really has nothing to do with your admiration for him...because you already admitted that there are people who speaks their mind that you do not admire, Mariotti for example.
Not only do I like Ozzie for how he handles the Sox, but also for what he has done with them (off and on the field). I also love the piss and vinegar he brings to the club. Plus, From what I have heard "of his speech", I can't disagree with him.
Rich
<< <i>reductio ad absurdum >>
Where else can one get an education right smack in the middle of difference of opinion!
<< <i>Hitler "spoke his mind too"...you like him too? >>
Is that a reductio ad absurdum?
I had to look this one up - I'll have to give a another look when I'm more awake.
I got another idea?
How about if we all just agree to disagree?
mike
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<< <i>
The bottom line regarding Ozzie is.....
Ozzie knows what it takes to win, has filled the seats at Comiskey, and has the loyalty of his players.......what more can anyone ask for in a manager?
Rich >>
Yeah he knows what it takes to win....become manager of a team with a great pitching staff.
-- Yogi Berra