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My 1888 Cap Anson (PSA mislabeled) and T206 scans

Here are a couple of cards I just got back from PSA. The Anson is mislabeled as a N172 Old Judge instead of a Goodwins Champios N162. The other is a Chase with the white cap and a Piedmont reverse and the Lenox reverse is Neal Ball.
Thanks for looking.

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ebay seller name milbroco
email bcmiller7@comcast.net

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  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭✭
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    ebay seller name milbroco
    email bcmiller7@comcast.net
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Nice

    SD
    Good for you.
  • nice cards, but that is an AWFUL holder by PSA. I hate those.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭


    << <i>nice cards, but that is an AWFUL holder by PSA. I hate those. >>



    Agreed; that's just plain nuts that, for the money spent, an effort isn't made to put such an important card in a more appropriate holder.

    That being said, that Anson card is incredible. It does deserve more respect.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    You have to wonder how a grader that doesn't know the difference between a N162 Goodwin and a N172 Old Judge is allowed anywhere near vintage cards.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    Milbroco ....how did you label them?
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You have to wonder how a grader that doesn't know the difference between a N162 Goodwin and a N172 Old Judge is allowed anywhere near vintage cards. >>



    I assume you mean grader to be the individual who assigned the numeric grade, but I think one can reasonably extend the question so that grader means the entire operation.

    Nice cards, though!
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  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭✭
    I labeled the slip Year 1888 - Goodwins Champions.
    ebay seller name milbroco
    email bcmiller7@comcast.net
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    It amazes me how often PSA will put incorrect information on flips, especially when the information is included correctly on the invoice 9 out of 10 times.
    Who is Rober Maris?
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    You guys know that the graders do not see the invoice, right?
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You guys know that the graders do not see the invoice, right? >>


    true, but the next step is sealing, and that should have some level of quality control.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • FYSFYS Posts: 194
    The N172 is a pretty significant error, not to mention the unacceptable holder. You can only blame yourself. You were the one that decided to send to PSA.

    Straight from PSA's literature:

    Behind the scenes at PSA:

    1. Security: Highly trained security personnel and state-of-the-art security systems protect your collectables from the time they arrive at PSA until they are returned to you. While on our premises, they are covered by liability insurance.
    2. Receiving: Your package is logged into our computer network even before it's opened. Your submissions are then checked for accuracy, assigned unique tracking numbers and placed in generic packaging to ensure anonymity as they enter the grading room.
    3. The Grading Room: Here the world's mosk knowledgeable graders work in a controlled environment that provides optimal conditions for authenticating and studying the characteristics and the physical condition of each submission.
    4. Card Encapsulation: Once graded, each collectible is sonically sealed inside a protective, tamper-evident PSA holder with an identification label that shows its certification number, manufacturer, grade, date, unique bar code and player's name.
    5. Final Verification: As a final quality control check, a PSA verifier carefully examines the encapsulated item to ensure the integrity of the sealed capsule and to check the accuracy of all certification information.

    It sounds like receiving initially puts the information in the system, the grader has a chance to correct, then quality has a chance to correct. Potentially, three different people have to make an error in order for a bad flip to get out the door.
  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    I like PSA a lot ..but this stuff really makes you shake your head.

    When it comes to pre war SGC is really doing a better job ...
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
  • SoutherncardsSoutherncards Posts: 1,384 ✭✭
    That Anson slab speaks volumes more than I could ever slam in one post.

    Sad.
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