Who Has the Top 5 Topps Baseball Sets from the 1960s
Davalillo
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This is not including the specialty sets. I thought long and hard about this one, taking into account set rating, lead over the second set in the year and best possible set rating.
While my first inclination was not to give it to Tom Martin because 68 Topps is by far the easiest to get 9s and 10s in, at the end of the day his incredible set rating carried the day.
My Top 5 are as Follow:
1)Tom Martin--1968 Topps-9.64
2)Rob McBride-1961 Topps-9.08
3)Dave Cryer-1964 Topps-9.02
4)The Duke of Mint-1965 Topps-9.06
5)Tom Marino-1960 Topps-8.73
A strong runner-up and possible contender next year would be capecards in 67 Topps who is at 9.0 and rocketing higher.
Dav
While my first inclination was not to give it to Tom Martin because 68 Topps is by far the easiest to get 9s and 10s in, at the end of the day his incredible set rating carried the day.
My Top 5 are as Follow:
1)Tom Martin--1968 Topps-9.64
2)Rob McBride-1961 Topps-9.08
3)Dave Cryer-1964 Topps-9.02
4)The Duke of Mint-1965 Topps-9.06
5)Tom Marino-1960 Topps-8.73
A strong runner-up and possible contender next year would be capecards in 67 Topps who is at 9.0 and rocketing higher.
Dav
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I might have to lean toward the 64 set as being the #1 set of the 60's. Not many 10's available.
61 set 9.08 of 9.34 max
64 set 9.02 of 9.25 max
Peace
45% complete.
Peace
45% complete.
Bosox1976
Then the Duke of Mint's 65. Just as awesome.
One man's opinion.
Be good my brothers.
1)Tom Martin --1968 9.64
2)The Duke of MInt --1965 9.06
3)Dave Cryer 1969--9.17
4)Dave Cryer 1964--9.02
5)Rob Mcbride 1961--9.08
DJJ
Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
I think the 64 set is most impressive.
Peace
45% complete.
perhaps percentage of highest set out highest possible percentage. that would be the 1968 who has 9.64 out of a possible 9.80 or 98.4% of max. however there are probably 100 cards in that set that a 10 population of 5 or more so getting a 10 is not that hard compared to the many other sets who have a lot 1/1's on the 10's.
using the above formula here is the way it shakes out:
Year Highest Max % of max
1968 9.64 9.80 98.4
1964 9.02 9.25 97.5
1969 9.17 9.43 97.2
1961 9.08 9.34 97.2
1967 9.00 9.26 97.2
1966 8.95 9.21 97.2
1965 9.06 9.34 97.0
1960 8.73 9.08 96.1
1963 8.72 9.14 95.4
1962 8.34 9.04 92.3
it is odd that four sets had the same % of max rating. so much of this depends on the competition for the 10's.
I think percentage of 9's and 10's available is also a huge factor.
I think Cryer 64 has around 40% of all available 10's in that year. 68 has a plethora of 10's, much easier to come by.
1968 2,325 10's
1964 175 10's
Peace
45% complete.
A bit of a different approach for consideration... John Ambeck's #2 1963 set. I have the #1 but that's not the point. Expanding on gaspipe's thought, I was at @ 13th or so until the #2 and #3 sets were broken up at the same time and I was able to "purchase" my way to a number one set almost overnight. John, on the other had, not only had the #1 set before that, he did it the old fashioned way, one card at a time. He also mastered the set; you have only to read his article in the SMR on the 63's, a copy of which can be linked from the registry's '63 home page. The '63 is an intertesting set and if it were not for the floating head cards that I really am not excited about, including the waaaaay expensive Rose Rookie, it would be my favorite.
My personal favorite is my 64's although the 67's, of which I have none, are really cool.
Don't know who I would vote for but thant's for all the consideration.
Dave C.
I know the 63's have a few variation allowing a Master set. I know very little about variations in the 60's, 61's, 62's, 66's and 67's.
Dave C.
I know the 63's have a few variation allowing a Master set. I know very little about variations in the 60's, 61's, 62's, 66's and 67's.
off the top of my head
1962 variations- include Reniff and Tasby
1966 variations- there are several trade/no trade variations ala 1959
1967 variations- i believe a couple of the cheklist and the Rbraves
Absolutely ALL those top sets are awe inspiring to me!!
Just fantastic treasures ....each and every one.
Shane
My top 3:
1.) Ron Ritt's original 1968 set.
2.) Rob McBride's 1961 set
3.) Duke of Mint's 1965 set.
Seinbig's 62 set would get my vote as the top set due to the tough brown borders.
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Excellent point but is it true??--while he is unbelievably aggressive in his bidding it could be that he has a bunch of 8s--would be interested in what Rob McBride thinks about this.
Rob?
Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
out of curiosity what does a 1/1 PSA 10 on a common player go for that has a fair share of psa 9's in the set in different years from the 1960's?
a typical 1966 is between 600-700.
Year Leader Set Rating Highest Possible % of Highest
1960 Tony Marino 8.77 9.10 96.3%
1961 Rob McBride 9.11 9.37 97.2%
1962 SeinBigD 8.44 9.06 93.1%
1963 Dave Cryer 8.92 9.17 97.2%
1964 Dave Cryer 9.08 9.29 97.7%
1965 Jellybean 9.11 9.38 97.1%
1966 VintageCorvette9.00 9.23 97.5%
1967 Capecards 9.14 9.29 98.3%
1968 Tom Martin 9.72 9.84 98.7%
1969 Dave Cryer 9.22 9.47 97.3%
How much has changed? Progress is being made on all sets--probably the most though by Capecards on his 67 Topps Set.
My new top 5 Topps Sets from the 60s are as follows:
1)Tom Martin--1968 Topps--Yeah I know its the easiest set of the 60s in high grade but 9.72 and a 98.7% completion in highest grade carry the day
2)Rob McBride--1961 Topps--A strong set rating 9.11 and a 97.2% completion in highest grade when Rob has to compete against Primeeagle(is he still buying?) is a great accomplishment
3)Capecards--1967 Topps--Going from 9.00 six mos. ago to 9.14 is a big jump and he has 98.3% completion in highest grade(second only to Tom Martin).
4)Dave Cryer--1964 Topps--Dave has gone from 9.02 to 9.08 and is 97.7% complete in highest grade possible
5)Jellybean--1965 Topps--at 9.11 and 97.1%-great set.
What do you guys think?
Jim
Collect primarily 1959-1963 Topps Baseball
set registry id Don Johnson Collection
ebay id truecollector14
Collect primarily 1959-1963 Topps Baseball
set registry id Don Johnson Collection
ebay id truecollector14
Hands down the toughest set IMO.
-- Yogi Berra
Larry really has done a great job with his set!
Is John McLaren actively bidding on 9s he does not have and 10s. I know its hard to move a set rating that high but his has advanced by .01 the last 9 months.
Jim
All great sets and all great accomplishments, hard to determine which sets are top 5.
Peace
45% complete.
Also my favorite 60's set as well
I have seen John bidding on 9's on ebay in the last year. Two things are deterring him from adding very many cards though. First, there are not that many 9's that come up that he still needs. Secondly, I have seen him being outbid a number of times by several other aggressive '59 bidders that will pay very high prices for these cards. John puts in a very strong bid but will not bid to win at all costs. Hence, he does get to add a few here and there but it is very slow going.
To all....
I agree that the 1962 set is the most difficult of the '60's baseball. I am working actively on it myself now and, unlike all other sets from the '60's, there are still very low pops (in the teens) in this set. Geez, even single digit 8's....Witt, Landrum.....amazing.
Collect primarily 1959-1963 Topps Baseball
set registry id Don Johnson Collection
ebay id truecollector14
Not to belittle these men's accomplishments, and I've dealt with most and all have been terrific, but I can't help but wonder how some private raw sets that were amassed over the years would stack up against these? Some of the sets belonging to some long-time collectors and even some dealers I know are utterly amazing. One example is a collector from the West Coast that told me that he's easily spent over $100K building his raw 1967 set. In fact he's told me that sometimes he'll buy a super high grade raw set and integrate those cards with his, critically examining the best card of the two, with the discards being sent to PSA where they grade 9 and even 10 and they aren't even as nice in his opinion as the ones in his set.
Not much in this hobby surprises me any more but I had no idea that sets like that existed.
They are very few and far between, but there some others that I know that were fortunate enough to break open surplus vending cases from the '60s during the mid '70's and early '80's and handpick the best one or several cards of each player with 50 to choose from and build one or several sets that way and they still have them. I've actually learned quite a bit from collectors like this. They really don't see grading as a bad thing because they alert people of the bad cards floating around, but scratch their heads at some of the prices fetched for common PSA 10's for example where they could show you the same issue of that card with better focus, centering, color and contrast and probably only grade 9 and in their opinion still be the more desirable card of the two. It's for that reason, people like this wish not to have their cards graded nor compete on the registry because they don't believe that grades alone dictate the ultimate "collectibility" of the cards.
But yes, there still are a lot of high grade vintage cards left to be graded.