1984 Topps Baseball 90 card submission results

ajetfan

I bought a 3-box rack case from BBCE a few months ago and took my time going through all the cards (not just stars) for high quality cards to submit. Here's the results:

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 07126006 1984 TOPPS 1 1983 HIGHLIGHT STEVE CARLTON 9
2 07126007 1984 TOPPS 29 DANNY HEEP N/A 9
2 07126008 1984 TOPPS 29 DANNY HEEP N/A 9
3 07126009 1984 TOPPS 31 ANDY McGAFFIGAN N/A 10
4 07126010 1984 TOPPS 50 CHRIS CHAMBLISS N/A 9
5 07126011 1984 TOPPS 54 JESSE OROSCO N/A 9
6 07126012 1984 TOPPS 59 SAMMY STEWART N/A 9
7 07126013 1984 TOPPS 86 JOHN SHELBY N/A 9
8 07126014 1984 TOPPS 89 MIKE SMITHSON N/A 9
9 07126015 1984 TOPPS 90 PEDRO GUERRERO N/A 9
10 07126016 1984 TOPPS 98 STEVE NICOSIA N/A 10
11 07126017 1984 TOPPS 120 KEITH HERNANDEZ N/A 10
12 07126018 1984 TOPPS 122 CECILIO GUANTE N/A 10
13 07126019 1984 TOPPS 123 BUTCH WYNEGAR N/A 9
14 07126020 1984 TOPPS 150 DALE MURPHY N/A 9
14 07126021 1984 TOPPS 150 DALE MURPHY N/A 9
15 07126022 1984 TOPPS 161 JUNIOR ORTIZ N/A 9
16 07126023 1984 TOPPS 162 BOB OJEDA N/A 9
17 07126024 1984 TOPPS 172 FRANK DiPINO N/A 10
18 07126025 1984 TOPPS 174 JUAN BERENGUER N/A 8
19 07126026 1984 TOPPS 178 BILL KRUEGER N/A 10
20 07126027 1984 TOPPS 182 DARRYL STRAWBERRY N/A 9
20 07126028 1984 TOPPS 182 DARRYL STRAWBERRY N/A 9
21 07126029 1984 TOPPS 194 DOMINGO RAMOS N/A 9
22 07126030 1984 TOPPS 195 JACK MORRIS N/A 8
23 07126031 1984 TOPPS 196 DON SLAUGHT N/A 9
24 07126032 1984 TOPPS 198 BILL DORAN N/A 9
25 07126033 1984 TOPPS 204 BOBBY MEACHAM N/A 9
26 07126034 1984 TOPPS 208 JOSE OQUENDO N/A 8
27 07126035 1984 TOPPS 240 EDDIE MURRAY N/A 10
28 07126036 1984 TOPPS 260 SCOTT McGREGOR N/A 10
29 07126037 1984 TOPPS 261 BOBBY BROWN N/A 9
30 07126038 1984 TOPPS 286 LARY SORENSEN N/A 10
31 07126039 1984 TOPPS 293 ED LYNCH N/A 9
32 07126040 1984 TOPPS 294 UL WASHINGTON N/A 10
33 07126041 1984 TOPPS 299 JOHN BUTCHER N/A 9
34 07126042 1984 TOPPS 300 PETE ROSE N/A 9
35 07126043 1984 TOPPS 316 MARK BRADLEY N/A 9
36 07126044 1984 TOPPS 325 DARRELL EVANS N/A 8
37 07126045 1984 TOPPS 365 STEVE BEDROSIAN N/A 9
38 07126046 1984 TOPPS 372 GARY ROENICKE N/A 9
39 07126047 1984 TOPPS 376 DAVE ANDERSON N/A 9
40 07126048 1984 TOPPS 385 TONY PEREZ N/A 10
40 07126049 1984 TOPPS 385 TONY PEREZ N/A 9
41 07126050 1984 TOPPS 388 MIKE SCHMIDT N/A 10
41 07126051 1984 TOPPS 388 MIKE SCHMIDT N/A 10
42 07126052 1984 TOPPS 396 JESSE OROSCO N/A 9
43 07126053 1984 TOPPS 402 DAVE WINFIELD N/A 9
44 07126054 1984 TOPPS 432 CHARLIE HUDSON N/A 10
45 07126055 1984 TOPPS 446 LUIS PUJOLS N/A 10
46 07126056 1984 TOPPS 470 NOLAN RYAN N/A 9
47 07126057 1984 TOPPS 477 RAFAEL LANDESTOY N/A 9
48 07126058 1984 TOPPS 479 FRANK TANANA N/A 9
49 07126059 1984 TOPPS 490 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
49 07126060 1984 TOPPS 490 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
49 07126061 1984 TOPPS 490 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
50 07126062 1984 TOPPS 492 TUCKER ASHFORD N/A 9
51 07126063 1984 TOPPS 493 MIKE NORRIS N/A 8
52 07126064 1984 TOPPS 497 BUD ANDERSON N/A 10
53 07126065 1984 TOPPS 499 MIKE WITT N/A 9
54 07126066 1984 TOPPS 513 DAVE BEARD N/A 9
55 07126067 1984 TOPPS 515 GORMAN THOMAS N/A 9
56 07126068 1984 TOPPS 524 CARLOS DIAZ N/A 9
57 07126069 1984 TOPPS 533 KEN LANDREAUX N/A 8
58 07126070 1984 TOPPS 534 PETE O'BRIEN N/A 9
59 07126071 1984 TOPPS 539 GEORGE FRAZIER N/A 9
60 07126072 1984 TOPPS 549 WALT TERRELL N/A 9
61 07126073 1984 TOPPS 557 WAYNE TOLLESON N/A 10
62 07126074 1984 TOPPS 573 DAVE KINGMAN N/A 9
63 07126075 1984 TOPPS 591 TONY LaRUSSA N/A 10
64 07126076 1984 TOPPS 627 DAVE LaPOINT N/A 10
65 07126077 1984 TOPPS 630 TED SIMMONS N/A 10
66 07126078 1984 TOPPS 634 MIKE MARSHALL N/A 10
67 07126079 1984 TOPPS 650 PHIL NIEKRO N/A 10
68 07126080 1984 TOPPS 659 DUANE WALKER N/A 9
69 07126081 1984 TOPPS 666 TIGERS BATTING & PITCHING LEADERS 9
70 07126082 1984 TOPPS 670 RICH GOSSAGE N/A 9
71 07126083 1984 TOPPS 676 BRIAN GILES N/A 10
72 07126084 1984 TOPPS 680 FRED LYNN N/A 9
73 07126085 1984 TOPPS 688 GEORGE WRIGHT N/A 10
74 07126086 1984 TOPPS 695 LOU WHITAKER N/A 9
75 07126087 1984 TOPPS 708 NL ACTIVE CAREER ERA LEADERS 10
76 07126088 1984 TOPPS 732 TERRY CROWLEY N/A 10
77 07126089 1984 TOPPS 744 JAMIE ALLEN N/A 9
78 07126090 1984 TOPPS 750 JIM PALMER N/A 10
78 07126091 1984 TOPPS 750 JIM PALMER N/A 10
78 07126092 1984 TOPPS 750 JIM PALMER N/A 9
79 07126093 1984 TOPPS 763 CRAIG SWAN N/A 8
80 07126094 1984 TOPPS 767 CARNEY LANSFORD N/A 10
81 07126095 1984 TOPPS 792 BILL RUSSELL N/A 10

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larryallen73

Nice. Only a couple of 8's and a whole wad of 10's! Cool. ALWAYS fun to get 10's!

ArnyVee

Congrats! Looks like you hit some nice racks there!

jmbkb4

There is no feeling like getting so many 10s!!!

Downtown1974

Congrats!! Thats a boat load of 10s. I dont know from experience but, it seems like alot of people here do well with unopened material from BBCE.

Stone193

Sweet!

Great eye...congratulations!

thanx for sharing - how about a scan of the Palmer when you get them back.

mike

ajetfan

Hey all:

I was pretty happy with the grades, but honestly, with the exception of some Mets, Tigers and these stars (#1 Carlton, #300 Rose, and #470 Ryan), all of the other cards were PSA 10 material. That being said, I still can't complain about getting 10s on exactly 1/3 of the cards (30 out of 90). The case had a good number of very nice cards, but no nice Mattinglys. Oh well, I can't expect too much from 22 year old product.

Mike:

I'll post a scan of one of the Palmer 10s to this thread after I receive the package back from PSA. For some reason, all the Palmers were beautiful in this case and I was hard pressed to pick the 3 best to submit. I'm honestly shocked that the third one on my invoce didn't get a 10 also. I'm going to keep one of them, but one of the 10s and the 9 will probably find their way to ebay.

Robert (ajetfan)

Boopotts

None of this bodes well. On a dangerous (and, ultimately, probably expensive) impulse I submitted 200 star cards from the 1990's this last week. They're all clean, with no corner or surface wear (blah blah blah), but if the grades that are coming in are any indication of how mine are going to turn out I'm bound to be at least a little disappointed. In any case there's nothing more demoralizing then being actively FEARING the day that your grades are released, and that's the situation I feel like I'm beginning to crawl into.

detroitfan2

<<None of this bodes well. On a dangerous (and, ultimately, probably expensive) impulse I submitted 200 star cards from the 1990's this last week. They're all clean, with no corner or surface wear (blah blah blah), but if the grades that are coming in are any indication of how mine are going to turn out I'm bound to be at least a little disappointed. In any case there's nothing more demoralizing then being actively FEARING the day that your grades are released, and that's the situation I feel like I'm beginning to crawl into.>>

Which gets me to wonderin': Is it even possible, from say a 100 card submission, to get 50 or 60 or 90 PSA 10's? Of course it's technically possible, but is it psychologically (if that's the right word) possible for a grader to take a large submission and, even if they're more than worthy, hang a 10 on every card (or a very high percentage of the cards)? Or is the grading process set up to take the "psychologicalness" out of the equation?

larryallen73

Which gets me to wonderin': Is it even possible, from say a 100 card submission, to get 50 or 60 or 90 PSA 10's? Of course it's technically possible, but is it psychologically (if that's the right word) possible for a grader to take a large submission and, even if they're more than worthy, hang a 10 on every card (or a very high percentage of the cards)? Or is the grading process set up to take the "psychologicalness" out of the equation?

That's a great point. What's the highest percentage anybody has ever received as 10's? For me, I would say 10%. However, I am no expert. What about you experts? What's the highest percentage of 10's received back on a modern sub?

Stingray

Give me a PM if you are collecting the set?? I have some extra PSA 9s that I have been holding onto.

jmbkb4

<< <i>
Which gets me to wonderin': Is it even possible, from say a 100 card submission, to get 50 or 60 or 90 PSA 10's? Of course it's technically possible, but is it psychologically (if that's the right word) possible for a grader to take a large submission and, even if they're more than worthy, hang a 10 on every card (or a very high percentage of the cards)? Or is the grading process set up to take the "psychologicalness" out of the equation? >>


There was an approximate 80-card submission a few weeks ago (of my beloved '93s) and 76 cards came back PSA 10. This came from a buddy of mine extrapolitating the population report.

jmbkb4

<< <i>Which gets me to wonderin': Is it even possible, from say a 100 card submission, to get 50 or 60 or 90 PSA 10's? Of course it's technically possible, but is it psychologically (if that's the right word) possible for a grader to take a large submission and, even if they're more than worthy, hang a 10 on every card (or a very high percentage of the cards)? Or is the grading process set up to take the "psychologicalness" out of the equation?

That's a great point. What's the highest percentage anybody has ever received as 10's? For me, I would say 10%. However, I am no expert. What about you experts? What's the highest percentage of 10's received back on a modern sub? >>


My best is 1/3 of 33%, all 1993 Refractors.

mikeschmidt

<< <i>
That's a great point. What's the highest percentage anybody has ever received as 10's? For me, I would say 10%. However, I am no expert. What about you experts? What's the highest percentage of 10's received back on a modern sub? >>



I once got 48% 10s on a submission of 1988 Star Glossy Mike Schmidt cards I sent in. It was a 42 card submission. I was definitely not expecting all 10s, and was pleasantly surprised by the results.

Boopotts

<< <i><<None of this bodes well. On a dangerous (and, ultimately, probably expensive) impulse I submitted 200 star cards from the 1990's this last week. They're all clean, with no corner or surface wear (blah blah blah), but if the grades that are coming in are any indication of how mine are going to turn out I'm bound to be at least a little disappointed. In any case there's nothing more demoralizing then being actively FEARING the day that your grades are released, and that's the situation I feel like I'm beginning to crawl into.>>

Which gets me to wonderin': Is it even possible, from say a 100 card submission, to get 50 or 60 or 90 PSA 10's? Of course it's technically possible, but is it psychologically (if that's the right word) possible for a grader to take a large submission and, even if they're more than worthy, hang a 10 on every card (or a very high percentage of the cards)? Or is the grading process set up to take the "psychologicalness" out of the equation? >>




Well, we're going to find out, since for the first time in the years I've been submitting I can honestly say that not a single one of the cards I submitted was a dog. There are no sliders in these 200 cards-- none. You wouldn't believe the quality of some of the cards I rejected. If this bunch comes back with a bad 10 to 9 ratio I'll probably never submit another low dollar post-1980 card for the rest of my life.

I hit 50% 10's on my last batch of 1986 Topps, and if this lot doesn't come back better than that I will not be happy.

Rangerman

27 tens & 9 nines on a recent 36 card submission-----Tony

ajetfan

Mike,

Here's a scan of one of the Palmer 10s:

1984 Topps Jim Palmer PSA 10



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